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[Piratis]

Erol, you continue saying the same nonsense. Are the Greek people in Turkey the same people as the Turks? Of course they are not. Do the Greeks of Constantinople want their city to be part of Turkey? Of course they don't. But it is not up to them to decide.

You can have the same rights that the Greek people have in Turkey. Nothing more and nothing less.

You can define yourself as you like. The fact remains that you are an ethnic minority in Cyprus and you also choose to be an ethnic minority among a Greek majority (unlike the Greeks in Turkey). If you didn't like being a minority among Greeks you shouldn't have come to Cyprus or any other Greek island or territory.

Just because you invaded Greek islands and territories this doesn't take away our right for a united free Greek state that will encompass all the territories that Greeks have been the majority for 1000s of years. Your community can be an ethnic minority in this country just like any other minority in any other country. Nothing more and nothing less.

[Acikgoz]

Pipi, don't you see that apart we are happier and safer. In the northern state of Cyprus the TCs are a majority and people are happier that way. In the south the GCs are a majority and people are happier that way.
Both have determined their own rights of determination.

We'll iron out some of the details to make the most people happy and we can all be much happier going forward.

[Oracle]

Pipi, don't you see that apart we are happier and safer. .

We will all be happiest and safest when all the Turks and troops are out of Cyprus.

[erolz3]

Just because you invaded Greek islands and territories this doesn't take away our right for a united free Greek state that will encompass all the territories that Greeks have been the majority for 1000s of years.

Just because we culturaly descend from an ethnicity that ruled Cyprus as conquerors hundreds of years ago it does not mean we have no rights as a people in cyprus, our homeland, and as far as yopu chose to express your right to self determination as part of the Greek people, we in turn express ours seperately and equally as different people.

Your community can be an ethnic minority in this country just like any other minority in any other country. Nothing more and nothing less.

YOU do not decide what our status is and if we are legitimately a seperate people than GC that chose to execrise their right to self determination as Greeks and not as Cypriots.

We believe that we are a seperate people from you in Cyprus as far as you choose to execrise your rights to self determination as part of the Greek people. Not only do we believe this but it was and is the basis for the equality of the two communites within the legal agreements that created the RoC. Even today the UN recognises that the TC community is more than just an ethnic minority within cyprus and has a legal staus greatet than just that of an ethnic minority despite how much you believe otherwise.

As far as you try and deny us these rights we try and fight to maintain them. Just as you fought against the impostion of a foreign will on you agaist your will so too do we fight such.

Your arrogance that says you can unilateraly decide if TC are an ethnic minority in their own homeland or a seperate people as far as you define yourself as part of the greek people in terms of exercising your right to self determination is what is at the heart of the Cyprus problem, historicaly and today. It is the same arrogance that says you can act in illegal ways as you like in Cyprus if you unilateraly decide something you dont like is unfair.

[Piratis]

Are the Greek people in Turkey the same people as the Turks? Of course they are not. Do the Greeks of Constantinople want their city to be part of Turkey? Of course they don't. But it is not up to them to decide.

Still waiting an answer to the above. And it would be better if your answer is with actions, not with words. Give to the Greek people of Constantinople (and all other territories with Greek minorities and Turkish majorities) the kind of powers you demand from us, practice what you preach, and then come to sell your bullshit theories to us.

[Piratis]

To be more precise, every city, village or island with a Turkish majority and a Greek population should be independent, not part of the Turkish state. And the Greek people in each of those independent small territories should have equal power to the one of the Turks.

So do that, and then come and ask for the same for your minority in Cyprus.

[DTA]

To be more precise, every city, village or island with a Turkish majority and a Greek population should be independent, not part of the Turkish state. And the Greek people in each of those independent small territories should have equal power to the one of the Turks.

So do that, and then come and ask for the same for your minority in Cyprus.

Except we are the majority in the TRNC

[BirKibrisli]

Are the Greek people in Turkey the same people as the Turks? Of course they are not. Do the Greeks of Constantinople want their city to be part of Turkey? Of course they don't. But it is not up to them to decide.

Still waiting an answer to the above. And it would be better if your answer is with actions, not with words. Give to the Greek people of Constantinople (and all other territories with Greek minorities and Turkish majorities) the kind of powers you demand from us, practice what you preach, and then come to sell your bullshit theories to us.

There is a little fact which you are ignoring when you make these comparisons,Piratis...Cyprus is not Greece...And Greece is not Cyprus...I know in your mind it is,you have no doubt Cyprus is a Greek island whose destiny was brutally interrupted...That is where you are wrong...
The TCs had every right to oppose their country,Cyprus, being gifted to a foreign power,Greece...And we were generous to you to,we didn't want all of Cyprus to go to Turkey,only part of it...While you wanted it all to be part of Greece...

Give up the sharade,Piratis...You are a fanatical Greek nationalist still smarting from our blocking your "destiny"...You have not moved one inch from 1571....For you we are still the same people,the conquering Ottomans who caused you so much pain and suffering...You still hold bitterness and hatred in your heart,and that makes you and your think-alikes dangerous.I wouldn't want to live with people who still see me as an Ottoman after 430 years of living on these lands...Because they will treat me as an Ottoman...And it wouldn't be safe for me to be around you...

[Get Real!]

Just because we culturaly descend from an ethnicity that ruled Cyprus as conquerors hundreds of years ago it does not mean we have no rights as a people in cyprus, our homeland, and as far as yopu chose to express your right to self determination as part of the Greek people, we in turn express ours seperately and equally as different people.

Unless you embrace the indigenous Cypriots you don’t stand a chance of surviving here.

[Piratis]

Are the Greek people in Turkey the same people as the Turks? Of course they are not. Do the Greeks of Constantinople want their city to be part of Turkey? Of course they don't. But it is not up to them to decide.

Still waiting an answer to the above. And it would be better if your answer is with actions, not with words. Give to the Greek people of Constantinople (and all other territories with Greek minorities and Turkish majorities) the kind of powers you demand from us, practice what you preach, and then come to sell your bullshit theories to us.

There is a little fact which you are ignoring when you make these comparisons,Piratis...Cyprus is not Greece...And Greece is not Cyprus...I know in your mind it is,you have no doubt Cyprus is a Greek island whose destiny was brutally interrupted...That is where you are wrong...
The TCs had every right to oppose their country,Cyprus, being gifted to a foreign power,Greece...And we were generous to you to,we didn't want all of Cyprus to go to Turkey,only part of it...While you wanted it all to be part of Greece...

Give up the sharade,Piratis...You are a fanatical Greek nationalist still smarting from our blocking your "destiny"...You have not moved one inch from 1571....For you we are still the same people,the conquering Ottomans who caused you so much pain and suffering...You still hold bitterness and hatred in your heart,and that makes you and your think-alikes dangerous.I wouldn't want to live with people who still see me as an Ottoman after 430 years of living on these lands...Because they will treat me as an Ottoman...And it wouldn't be safe for me to be around you...

The problem is that you have not moved one inch since 1571.

Why would I hate you for what your ancestors did in the past? If I was like that then I would hate the Latin minority as well.

Unfortunately you continue acting in the exact same way as you did in the past, nothing change in you. You continue to oppress the Cypriot people and you continue to violate our human and democratic rights. This is why you are hated, and rightly so.

Now answer the question I asked about the Greeks in Turkey. You are trying to avoid it, a sign that shows that you realize the double standards you want to force against us and you are trying to find some way to avoid the question.

You say "Cyprus is not Greece", then also explain to me why Constantinople should be Turkish, by using the same set of rules. Can you do that? Because if we use the same set of rules that you use for Cyprus, Constantinople should be an independent state, with Greeks and Turks as equal partners.