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[boulio]

Even the greek govt.did not embrace the eoka struggle under papagos who was very pro british.

[EricSeans]

Erolz3 wrote:

"...without the struggle of the TC people Cyprus today would not exist as a nation and sovreign state. It would exist as a remote region of Greece..."

When you say "without the struggle of the TC people" don't you really mean "without the Turkish military operation"?

[georgios100]

Since I started this thread the following is to be assumed as correct.

1. The GCs initiated the armed struggle, fought and succeeded in kicking the Brits out of the island. 2 military bases remain,unfinished business.
2. The TCs never fired a single shot against the Occupiers but did shoot at the GCs who wanted freedom (enosis not a majority end game)
3. The TCs wanted the partition of the island all along (even if they would remain under occupation).
4. The TCs chose continuous slavery instead of freedom.
5. We will never know if the TCs were asked by the GCs to join the fight...were they?

The TCs claim minority weakness and fear they would be wiped out by the GCs so they called for Turkey's help. Nothing wrong with that. Joining the fight against the occupier would make more sense. Instead, they became freeloaders, expecting others to take care of business. Now they want to join the EU after all the legwork was done by the GCs. Freeloading again.
It's working for them. Turk politicians were and still are better than the Greeks.

Georgios100

[YFred]

Since I started this thread the following is to be assumed as correct.

1. The GCs initiated the armed struggle, fought and succeeded in kicking the Brits out of the island. 2 military bases remain,unfinished business.
2. The TCs never fired a single shot against the Occupiers but did shoot at the GCs who wanted freedom (enosis not a majority end game)
3. The TCs wanted the partition of the island all along (even if they would remain under occupation).
4. The TCs chose continuous slavery instead of freedom.
5. We will never know if the TCs were asked by the GCs to join the fight...were they?

The TCs claim minority weakness and fear they would be wiped out by the GCs so they called for Turkey's help. Nothing wrong with that. Joining the fight against the occupier would make more sense. Instead, they became freeloaders, expecting others to take care of business. Now they want to join the EU after all the legwork was done by the GCs. Freeloading again.
It's working for them. Turk politicians were and still are better than the Greeks.

Georgios100

Interesting method of investigation and assumed conclusions. Is this something you learned in Canada or was it genetically inherited.

[Get Real!]

Why is it that the GCs do not admit that EOKA was from Greece that send Grivas in charge to get rid of the British.

No, it was Makarios who summoned Grivas to head EOKA not Greece. But as you correctly said... it was to get rid of the British.

[apc2010]

EOKA or EOKA B ..i am not well read on the difference except dates .sorry trying to learn

[georgios100]

Since I started this thread the following is to be assumed as correct.

1. The GCs initiated the armed struggle, fought and succeeded in kicking the Brits out of the island. 2 military bases remain,unfinished business.
2. The TCs never fired a single shot against the Occupiers but did shoot at the GCs who wanted freedom (enosis not a majority end game)
3. The TCs wanted the partition of the island all along (even if they would remain under occupation).
4. The TCs chose continuous slavery instead of freedom.
5. We will never know if the TCs were asked by the GCs to join the fight...were they?

The TCs claim minority weakness and fear they would be wiped out by the GCs so they called for Turkey's help. Nothing wrong with that. Joining the fight against the occupier would make more sense. Instead, they became freeloaders, expecting others to take care of business. Now they want to join the EU after all the legwork was done by the GCs. Freeloading again.
It's working for them. Turk politicians were and still are better than the Greeks.

Georgios100

Interesting method of investigation and assumed conclusions. Is this something you learned in Canada or was it genetically inherited.

YFred,

I left Cyprus right after the war of 1974. Lived most of my life in Canada. I can see things with a different perspective... more realistic I might say. I learned to admit mistakes and not afraid to say so.

Your comments are ambiguous at times. Can you be more specific? Which one of the items above is incorrect? Why is it incorrect? Say what you have to say clearly and to the point. I am willing to listen. I am open to a fresh opinion, always. This is how things get done. Don't beat around the bush, come out clean and spell it out.

Georgios100

[Get Real!]

Since I started this thread the following is to be assumed as correct.

1. The GCs initiated the armed struggle, fought and succeeded in kicking the Brits out of the island. 2 military bases remain,unfinished business.
2. The TCs never fired a single shot against the Occupiers but did shoot at the GCs who wanted freedom (enosis not a majority end game)
3. The TCs wanted the partition of the island all along (even if they would remain under occupation).
4. The TCs chose continuous slavery instead of freedom.
5. We will never know if the TCs were asked by the GCs to join the fight...were they?

The TCs claim minority weakness and fear they would be wiped out by the GCs so they called for Turkey's help. Nothing wrong with that. Joining the fight against the occupier would make more sense. Instead, they became freeloaders, expecting others to take care of business. Now they want to join the EU after all the legwork was done by the GCs. Freeloading again.
It's working for them. Turk politicians were and still are better than the Greeks.

Georgios100

Interesting method of investigation and assumed conclusions. Is this something you learned in Canada or was it genetically inherited.

YFred,

I left Cyprus right after the war of 1974. Lived most of my life in Canada. I can see things with a different perspective... more realistic I might say. I learned to admit mistakes and not afraid to say so.

Your comments are ambiguous at times. Can you be more specific? Which one of the items above is incorrect? Why is it incorrect? Say what you have to say clearly and to the point. I am willing to listen. I am open to a fresh opinion, always. This is how things get done. Don't beat around the bush, come out clean and spell it out.

Georgios100

Don't waste your breath with Y-Fronts... he’s like the janitor with the IQ of a faulty lawn mower that’s also run out of gas.

[YFred]

Since I started this thread the following is to be assumed as correct.

1. The GCs initiated the armed struggle, fought and succeeded in kicking the Brits out of the island. 2 military bases remain,unfinished business.
2. The TCs never fired a single shot against the Occupiers but did shoot at the GCs who wanted freedom (enosis not a majority end game)
3. The TCs wanted the partition of the island all along (even if they would remain under occupation).
4. The TCs chose continuous slavery instead of freedom.
5. We will never know if the TCs were asked by the GCs to join the fight...were they?

The TCs claim minority weakness and fear they would be wiped out by the GCs so they called for Turkey's help. Nothing wrong with that. Joining the fight against the occupier would make more sense. Instead, they became freeloaders, expecting others to take care of business. Now they want to join the EU after all the legwork was done by the GCs. Freeloading again.
It's working for them. Turk politicians were and still are better than the Greeks.

Georgios100

Interesting method of investigation and assumed conclusions. Is this something you learned in Canada or was it genetically inherited.

YFred,

I left Cyprus right after the war of 1974. Lived most of my life in Canada. I can see things with a different perspective... more realistic I might say. I learned to admit mistakes and not afraid to say so.

Your comments are ambiguous at times. Can you be more specific? Which one of the items above is incorrect? Why is it incorrect? Say what you have to say clearly and to the point. I am willing to listen. I am open to a fresh opinion, always. This is how things get done. Don't beat around the bush, come out clean and spell it out.

Georgios100

Don't waste your breath with Y-Fronts... he’s like the janitor with the IQ of a faulty lawn mower that’s also run out of gas.

Reh GRuimu do mavro guelluimu. Lambron nase gapsi je na se gami guzzalin, reh vosko.

[YFred]

Since I started this thread the following is to be assumed as correct.

1. The GCs initiated the armed struggle, fought and succeeded in kicking the Brits out of the island. 2 military bases remain,unfinished business.
2. The TCs never fired a single shot against the Occupiers but did shoot at the GCs who wanted freedom (enosis not a majority end game)
3. The TCs wanted the partition of the island all along (even if they would remain under occupation).
4. The TCs chose continuous slavery instead of freedom.
5. We will never know if the TCs were asked by the GCs to join the fight...were they?

The TCs claim minority weakness and fear they would be wiped out by the GCs so they called for Turkey's help. Nothing wrong with that. Joining the fight against the occupier would make more sense. Instead, they became freeloaders, expecting others to take care of business. Now they want to join the EU after all the legwork was done by the GCs. Freeloading again.
It's working for them. Turk politicians were and still are better than the Greeks.

Georgios100

Interesting method of investigation and assumed conclusions. Is this something you learned in Canada or was it genetically inherited.

YFred,

I left Cyprus right after the war of 1974. Lived most of my life in Canada. I can see things with a different perspective... more realistic I might say. I learned to admit mistakes and not afraid to say so.

Your comments are ambiguous at times. Can you be more specific? Which one of the items above is incorrect? Why is it incorrect? Say what you have to say clearly and to the point. I am willing to listen. I am open to a fresh opinion, always. This is how things get done. Don't beat around the bush, come out clean and spell it out.

Georgios100

Just a few inaccuracies. There is 3 TCs killed by the Brits buried in Lurucina fighting the Brits in 58.
Eoka's policy was that all GC communists and TCs should keep out of fighting because its aims was not independence but enosis. And the kind of conclusion you come to, .......what the hell why do I bother.
GR get stuffed.
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