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[GeorgeV97qaue]

I have been thinking about this for a while now. As it stands the talks dont seem to be going anywhere. Once Talat is voted out in April we will have to deal with the racist Eroglu. Once he is gets involved I guess the talks will have to start from the beginning as he is in favour of partition.

When that happens I believe our President will then call of the talks off because of the position the Turks of Cyprus will take. Once the talks fail we need to make certain moves.

Firstly I would say we need to shut down the crossing points. Stop TC's crossing over and working on our side. This would then throw the North into crisis. High unemployment will be rife.

Once we take that measure Turkey will need to raise the budget they currently allocate to the Turks of Cyprus.

In turn the GC refugees should start taking any EU nationals to court that live on stolen land and the remianing should start legal proceedings against turkey in the European Court of Human Rights. Let's see how long Turkey will be able to carry on supporting the Turks of Cyrpus then.

It's about time we took action as the softly softly approach isnt working.

I'd like to hear your views on what the GC's should do.

[Pyrpolizer]

My friend sorry but Turkey is NOT actually supporting the average TC in the streets. She doesn't give him money.. If the poor TC does not work he will starve or abandon the place and then be replaced by settlers.
What Turkey does is she supports the pseudo government by paying it's budget. (I think last year it was 1 billion Euros). That's all...
So we would be stupid to close the borders because this way we will be punishing poor TCs, in fact those who did not have the "means" to become civil servants.

Of course we hate the pseudo state and the TC leaders but if you look at the situation of the poor man in the streets, the average TC i.e, they 've been suffering from this situation to an equal degree as the GC refugees.Should we make them suffer more???

Now to your question:
As soon as Eroglu proposes partition, we should grap the chance and withdraw all our consents and agreements . BBF is very restricting and biased against us, it was agreed million years ago by Makarios under totally different circumstances, for one there were no settlers then...

Get rid of BBF and demand he return to the RoC 1960 constitution with a some changes. After all this is the constitution we are in the EU.

[EPSILON]

I have been thinking about this for a while now. As it stands the talks dont seem to be going anywhere. Once Talat is voted out in April we will have to deal with the racist Eroglu. Once he is gets involved I guess the talks will have to start from the beginning as he is in favour of partition.

When that happens I believe our President will then call of the talks off because of the position the Turks of Cyprus will take. Once the talks fail we need to make certain moves.

Firstly I would say we need to shut down the crossing points. Stop TC's crossing over and working on our side. This would then throw the North into crisis. High unemployment will be rife.

Once we take that measure Turkey will need to raise the budget they currently allocate to the Turks of Cyprus.

In turn the GC refugees should start taking any EU nationals to court that live on stolen land and the remianing should start legal proceedings against turkey in the European Court of Human Rights. Let's see how long Turkey will be able to carry on supporting the Turks of Cyrpus then.

It's about time we took action as the softly softly approach isnt working.

I'd like to hear your views on what the GC's should do.

I do not know what ROC government must do-may be what you are stating above is a possibility, but i know that population in South should elect someone who is not supported by any political party to solve the problem on peoples benefit and not on politicians prospects.

[YFred]

I have been thinking about this for a while now. As it stands the talks dont seem to be going anywhere. Once Talat is voted out in April we will have to deal with the racist Eroglu. Once he is gets involved I guess the talks will have to start from the beginning as he is in favour of partition.

When that happens I believe our President will then call of the talks off because of the position the Turks of Cyprus will take. Once the talks fail we need to make certain moves.

Firstly I would say we need to shut down the crossing points. Stop TC's crossing over and working on our side. This would then throw the North into crisis. High unemployment will be rife.

Once we take that measure Turkey will need to raise the budget they currently allocate to the Turks of Cyprus.

In turn the GC refugees should start taking any EU nationals to court that live on stolen land and the remianing should start legal proceedings against turkey in the European Court of Human Rights. Let's see how long Turkey will be able to carry on supporting the Turks of Cyrpus then.

It's about time we took action as the softly softly approach isnt working.

I'd like to hear your views on what the GC's should do.

Sorry George roc does not have the balls or the right to do such a thing.

[EPSILON]

I have been thinking about this for a while now. As it stands the talks dont seem to be going anywhere. Once Talat is voted out in April we will have to deal with the racist Eroglu. Once he is gets involved I guess the talks will have to start from the beginning as he is in favour of partition.

When that happens I believe our President will then call of the talks off because of the position the Turks of Cyprus will take. Once the talks fail we need to make certain moves.

Firstly I would say we need to shut down the crossing points. Stop TC's crossing over and working on our side. This would then throw the North into crisis. High unemployment will be rife.

Once we take that measure Turkey will need to raise the budget they currently allocate to the Turks of Cyprus.

In turn the GC refugees should start taking any EU nationals to court that live on stolen land and the remianing should start legal proceedings against turkey in the European Court of Human Rights. Let's see how long Turkey will be able to carry on supporting the Turks of Cyrpus then.

It's about time we took action as the softly softly approach isnt working.

I'd like to hear your views on what the GC's should do.

Sorry George roc does not have the balls or the right to do such a thing.

Right? who deciding what ROC right has? The Generals in Aknara or international law?

[B25]

George, the title of your thread should read ..."WHEN the talks fail..."

I agree with everything you said.

Pyro, the anatolian will have no reason to come to Cyprus if there is no future, by allowing the TCs to work here we make room for them to work there. So by closing the crossing the TCs can go to VP,Yfred, Bir, Zan, Insan, Elko, and a number of others for financial support.

Why should we continue supporting these people if they don't want anything to do with us. They hate us, want us dead and we have to help them???

No my friend, it is time we took a harder line, because as sure as hell the would do it to us.

Eroglu, micky mouse, donald duck, all the same rubbish, Turkey is doing the talking, and until the TCs wake up to this they will always be no bodys even in the trashcan they think they have won.

The use of Eroglu to pressurise us will fail, we are not worried about him, in fact he may even be doing us a favour. dream on guys you end is nigh.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

What right have Turkey got to keep GC's from their land. Double standards me thinks. If we decided to shut the crossings what can any body say as the North is illeagly occupied.

We have a right to ensure our territory is secure. When Turks and Turks of Cyprus start following international law then you have a right to complain.

[Pyrpolizer]

George, the title of your thread should read ..."WHEN the talks fail..."

I agree with everything you said.

Pyro, the anatolian will have no reason to come to Cyprus if there is no future, by allowing the TCs to work here we make room for them to work there. So by closing the crossing the TCs can go to VP,Yfred, Bir, Zan, Insan, Elko, and a number of others for financial support.

Why should we continue supporting these people if they don't want anything to do with us. They hate us, want us dead and we have to help them???

No my friend, it is time we took a harder line, because as sure as hell the would do it to us.

Eroglu, micky mouse, donald duck, all the same rubbish, Turkey is doing the talking, and until the TCs wake up to this they will always be no bodys even in the trashcan they think they have won.

The use of Eroglu to pressurise us will fail, we are not worried about him, in fact he may even be doing us a favour. dream on guys you end is nigh.

Sorry it's not like that. Those who take the jobs are seasonal workers coming from Turkey plus some of the local settlers and they work for half the money. You don't know how much the TCs have been exploited in prices and are still been exploited by monopolies in the occupied. The cost of living is about the same as ours, it is extremely difficult to survive even with the salaries that those TCs who work in the free areas get.
I am totally against doing that because to the best of my ability i can understand some of the TC suffering besides my own.
And i am not looking for revenge but for justice for all.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

George, the title of your thread should read ..."WHEN the talks fail..."

I agree with everything you said.

Pyro, the anatolian will have no reason to come to Cyprus if there is no future, by allowing the TCs to work here we make room for them to work there. So by closing the crossing the TCs can go to VP,Yfred, Bir, Zan, Insan, Elko, and a number of others for financial support.

Why should we continue supporting these people if they don't want anything to do with us. They hate us, want us dead and we have to help them???

No my friend, it is time we took a harder line, because as sure as hell the would do it to us.

Eroglu, micky mouse, donald duck, all the same rubbish, Turkey is doing the talking, and until the TCs wake up to this they will always be no bodys even in the trashcan they think they have won.

The use of Eroglu to pressurise us will fail, we are not worried about him, in fact he may even be doing us a favour. dream on guys you end is nigh.

Sorry it's not like that. Those who take the jobs are seasonal workers coming from Turkey plus some of the local settlers and they work for half the money. You don't know how much the TCs have been exploited in prices and are still been exploited by monopolies in the occupied. The cost of living is about the same as ours, it is extremely difficult to survive even with the salaries that those TCs who work in the free areas get.
I am totally against doing that because to the best of my ability i can understand some of the TC suffering besides my own.
And i am not looking for revenge but for justice for all.

Sorry mate I dont give a hoot about the Tc's any more. They dont give a shit about us. They created the problem by inviting all the settlers. As the saying goes you made your bed now lie in it.

If they want to enjoy the same freedom's we do then they must comply with international law and give back our land. Stop all this rubbish they are spouting about 2 states. Where else in the world do you have the minority dictating to the majority.

[Pyrpolizer]

George, the title of your thread should read ..."WHEN the talks fail..."

I agree with everything you said.

Pyro, the anatolian will have no reason to come to Cyprus if there is no future, by allowing the TCs to work here we make room for them to work there. So by closing the crossing the TCs can go to VP,Yfred, Bir, Zan, Insan, Elko, and a number of others for financial support.

Why should we continue supporting these people if they don't want anything to do with us. They hate us, want us dead and we have to help them???

No my friend, it is time we took a harder line, because as sure as hell the would do it to us.

Eroglu, micky mouse, donald duck, all the same rubbish, Turkey is doing the talking, and until the TCs wake up to this they will always be no bodys even in the trashcan they think they have won.

The use of Eroglu to pressurise us will fail, we are not worried about him, in fact he may even be doing us a favour. dream on guys you end is nigh.

Sorry it's not like that. Those who take the jobs are seasonal workers coming from Turkey plus some of the local settlers and they work for half the money. You don't know how much the TCs have been exploited in prices and are still been exploited by monopolies in the occupied. The cost of living is about the same as ours, it is extremely difficult to survive even with the salaries that those TCs who work in the free areas get.
I am totally against doing that because to the best of my ability i can understand some of the TC suffering besides my own.
And i am not looking for revenge but for justice for all.

Sorry mate I dont give a hoot about the Tc's any more. They dont give a shit about us. They created the problem by inviting all the settlers. As the saying goes you made your bed now lie in it.

If they want to enjoy the same freedom's we do then they must comply with international law and give back our land. Stop all this rubbish they are spouting about 2 states. Where else in the world do you have the minority dictating to the majority.

They, they, they! Who the hell are they, they, they...

You remind me of those fanatic TCs ho come in here and say "they killed us they massacred us"

Sorry man I prefer to look at the person, at the MAN on an individual basis. Even if the basket is half rotten apples, there are the other half which are not.