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[DeportedFU2Cyprus]

Dear All

The 20th of July 2005.

31 years on, Tassos the Tash with his crocodile tears is still in power, thanks to AKEL and the R of C is the La La Land it has always been.

So all’s right with the world, it is still spinning on its axis, so here’s to the next 31 years of the Turkish “peace operation.”

Still and all, no Muslim Cypriot has died at the hands of a Christian Cypriot (apart from the little boy killed in Limassol by the deranged man, so we won’t count that one,) so I guess the Turks (and by our not preventing their actions, the British) should be proud of the lives we have saved, not that some will see it that way. Still you can’t please all the people, all the time.

Happy/sad (delete as appropriate) anniversary day!

What is very strange about today, is that the Cyprus Mail (on-line edition) doesn't have a single mention of the "days of days" anniversary. Do you think everyone has forgotten about the "days of days" now they are all such "happy" Europeans?


Brian Semmens

What you honestly expected me to be any different on this "days of days?" Oh do wake up and smell the Turkish/Greek coffee.

[cannedmoose]

Brian, regardless of your personal feelings towards Cyprus, I don't think this post was appropriate. For many people, the 20th July is the day that they lost a relative. I know from personal experience that my giagia will be in bits for the next few weeks because her son was killed on the 3rd day of the Turkish landings. So, for foreigners especially, I think it's not appropriate to make light of the events of 1974.

[DeportedFU2Cyprus]

Dear Canned Moose

Sorry I thought your role was to moderate, not censor discussion.

Are you and the other moderators to now become the arbiters of "appropriateness?"

Let’s take a look at my post, thought provoking it may be, but in the content of the post:

I haven't insulted anyone

I have stated my personal beliefs

I have made an observation about the Cyprus Mail's lack of Coverage and

I said a "happy" anniversary to both sides:

"Happy/sad (delete as appropriate) anniversary day!"

For sure I knew the subject would be "touchy" but then isn't everything about the "Cyprus problem" touchy? However that should not make us shy away from telling it as we see it.

I will take your advice under advisement, so unless you want to delete the post, I say leave it alone; it is the truth and let’s shout the truth so it is heard above the din of the daily noise.


Brian Semmens

[Piratis]

Sure, if there is a conflict between two groups of people the "solution" according to some is to kill and use force to ethnically cleanse one group from that area so the two groups are separated.

I wonder, would such "solution" be satisfactory for them if it was used against them? E.g. If the all the Turkish Cypriots were ethnically cleansed from Cyprus, again we wouldn't have any kind of incidents and we would have peace. Can such thing be the solution also?

Or maybe all British and Americans should be killed so we can finally have some peace in the world? According to the "logic" of the original poster this would be a good idea.

[DeportedFU2Cyprus]

MODERATOR: Personal insult edited out.

You wrote:

I wonder, would such "solution" be satisfactory for them if it was used against them? E.g. If the all the Turkish Cypriots were ethnically cleansed from Cyprus

But isn't that what Nicos Samson wanted to do and what caused the "peace operation/invasion" in the first place?

Joined up thinking, like joined up writing, is a difficult thing to master, just you keep persevering there's a good lad, you may get there in the end.


Brian Semmens[/i]

[brother]

Welcome to the forum Brian Semmens.

I appreciate your predicament and feel for you and your family at what seems to be a very wrongly used authority but can i ask you to refrain from name calling i.e piratis=parasite. This is uncalled for, if someone else insults you please report them to a moderator or directly to admin. and do not respond in retalliation.

Thank you Brother

[Piratis]

Dear Parasite

I haven't insulted anyone

It is obvious that your aim is to insult, there is no need to try to hide it.

But isn't that what Nicos Samson wanted to do and what caused the "peace operation/invasion" in the first place?

The great majority of Greek Cypriots never supported Samson, and as you know Samson has served several years in prison for his actions. Are you telling us now that we were wrong, and that the solution is indeed ethnic cleansing?

[cannedmoose]

Dear Canned Moose

Sorry I thought your role was to moderate, not censor discussion.

Are you and the other moderators to now become the arbiters of "appropriateness?"

Let’s take a look at my post, thought provoking it may be, but in the content of the post:

I haven't insulted anyone

I have stated my personal beliefs

I have made an observation about the Cyprus Mail's lack of Coverage and

I said a "happy" anniversary to both sides:

"Happy/sad (delete as appropriate) anniversary day!"

For sure I knew the subject would be "touchy" but then isn't everything about the "Cyprus problem" touchy? However that should not make us shy away from telling it as we see it.

I will take your advice under advisement, so unless you want to delete the post, I say leave it alone; it is the truth and let’s shout the truth so it is heard above the din of the daily noise.


Brian Semmens

Brian, my intention is not to censor, I don't have the power to do that in this particular section of the forum. But yes, my aim was to encourage you to moderate your views. Everything about the Cyprus problem is touchy, you're right on that. As for 'appropriateness', we're all the individual judges of that and personally I would refrain from linking the commemoration/celebration in the way that you did. I thought it was lacking in taste, but that's my personal opinion.

As for your other comments re: Piratis, I've often disagreed with Piratis as he represents a large section of GC opinion that I mostly don't sympathise with, however, it's childish to conduct a name-calling session with him, regardless of whether he called you "Mr. Semen". If he offended your name, you should report it to Admin for him to take appropriate action, not respond in kind, to do so only makes you look equally foolish. Also, as Brother has stated, if your case with the ECHR is indeed a valid one, which we have to assume it is, then I'm sure most people on this forum with sympathise with your annoyance towards the Cyprus government, but that doesn't give you carte blanche to enter this forum and conduct your campaign through it, so I would also ask that you refrain from doing so. Call that censorship if you wish, I call it 'moderation'.

[Alexandros Lordos]

Dear Canned Moose

Sorry I thought your role was to moderate, not censor discussion.

Are you and the other moderators to now become the arbiters of "appropriateness?"

Brian,

You should know that Cannedmoose does not moderate the Cyprus Problem forum - only MicAtCyp, Erolz and myself do that - but instead he moderates the "Cyprus and the EU" forum. What Cannedmoose said in his post is his personal view (about what is and what is not helpful/appropriate), which he has a right to express just as much as you have a right to express yours.

From a "moderator" perspective, there is nothing wrong with your post - not with the particular post, anyway.

[DeportedFU2Cyprus]

Dear Canned Moose

You wrote:

If he offended your name, you should report it to Admin for him to take appropriate action,

It is not my style to report other persons to the "headmaster!" I take the issue up with the person concerned and do not bring others in to my "petty" squabbles. Believe me or believe me not, I have been called worse things and I doubt there is a word that can be written or said that I haven't heard before, if not more than once.

I dealt with Piratis and his co-conspirator by calling them what they are; children who have to resort to puerile name/plays to win an argument.

My use of the word "Parasite" instead of Piratis's real name is ribald, not foolishness. It is a satire upon his name/actions. So far all Piratis has done, at least as regards my posts, is to score meaningless points without any reasoned argument to back up his thoughts, if one can call what passes for "thought" in Paritas's mind, as thought. In other words I consider him to be like parasite, merely feeding off me without any positive contribution.

Definition of a parasite:

1. Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

2. One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.

3. One who lives off and flatters the rich; a sycophant.

4. A professional dinner guest, especially in ancient Greece. From the Greek "parastos," a person who eats at someone else's table,

As regards your:

that doesn't give you carte blanche to enter this forum and conduct your campaign through it

I was asked by some of the members about my deportation, I wrote a brief explanation and posted a link to where persons who were so minded, could find out for themselves “the why,” “the wherefore” and “what have you,” about my deportation. Every other post I have made has been in response to someone either commenting accurately or inaccurately on my deportation. Hardly a "carte blanche" or blanket advertising campaign to support my "grievance" against the R of C ass you have sought to "paint" it.

In closing, can I thank you for your supportive post on the other string


Brian Semmens