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[turkcyp]

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[Kifeas]

Turkcyp,
You didn't need to write such a long article to express and explain your happiness for the 20th of July. I would have never bet even one cent on the opposite.

[cannedmoose]

Turkcyp,
You didn't need to write such a long article to express and explain your happiness for the 20th of July. I would have never bet even one cent on the opposite.

On the contrary, I thought it was an interesting perspective. Thanks TC. No doubt for Kifeas, this will confirm me as a 20th July celebrating, fully-fledged Ottoman-loving supporter of Turkish Cypriotism. I'd beg to differ, but that's just my opinion.

[turkcyp]

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[Kifeas]

Turkcyp,
You didn't need to write such a long article to express and explain your happiness for the 20th of July. I would have never bet even one cent on the opposite.

On the contrary, I thought it was an interesting perspective. Thanks TC. No doubt for Kifeas, this will confirm me as a 20th July celebrating, fully-fledged Ottoman-loving supporter of Turkish Cypriotism. I'd beg to differ, but that's just my opinion.

I did not need any more confirmations!

[cannedmoose]

I did not need any more confirmations!

I'll avoid Pafos then

[cypezokyli]

dear mr Brian Semmens

i have already in another thread, apologised for your deportation.

i have the feeling that u want to get even not only with the RoC state or officials, but with the whole of gc.

as concequence, as a typical british, u enter this forum and u r trying to start fires. and even worse trying to get tc against gc. i would like to thank u for your attempts, but we r already good enough doing that ourselves.

u insist to comment the fact that no tc died, as the only outcome of the 20th of july .
it is true.
even though it was not the only one if i am allowed to mention.

but isnt the fact that since the borders have opened no tc or gc has died, a more beautiful truth to mention? isnt the fact that since last year i have tc friends sth more nicer to mention? isnt this forum a sign -that despite our disagreements-, death killing or murder is not included in our vocabulary?
i have the feeling that u r intentionally trying to povoke. and u know what is more beautiful?
just read tyrkcyp view on the the 20th of july. after he/she has explained his/hers ideas there was an important comment:

"On the other hand I hate the way things turned out during and after the 20th . A lot of GCs suffered, and I feel sorry for the innocent who had suffered because of some violent among them. I understand how many GCs see it as a bad day because a lot of them did not harm a TC in their whole lives but still suffer the consequences of the war."

and also:

"I wish we, TCs and GCs could have managed to get rid of the violent minority extremes in our societies that had brought us today, and all the bloodshed could have been saved. And for that we all have responsibility and we all have the portion of the blame. "

can you feel the difference in the tone and the attitude?
isnt that a much nicer way to refer to a touchy subject than just saying : so what if it is touchy shouldnt we talk about it?
and do you know why?
b/c the simple tc and gc suffered equally, and if u suffer its easier to understand the pain of the others.
or the other way out is :if u suffer u can search for revenge.

plus u insist in portraying the british as protectors of the tc. up to now i did not notice any tc sharing your views. i am really sorry about that.
the turkish army ofcource they do, but as for the british... it would be interesting to have some tc comments on the subject.

it is also interesting that u insist in addressing the tcs and gcs as muslim and christians cypriots. i thing u r the only one in the whole forum. that doesnt mean that u r wrong ofcource, is just something that tcs and gcs tend not to do. perhaps is just another perspective. or the consequence that u r an outsider.
plus from my limited knowledge of the tc, i would say that religion plays much less role in their lives in comparison to gcs.

lastly i dont want to disagree with your grandma who appeared to have quoted R.F Kennedy but just some other quotes from people a little bit clever than us:

She [Eleanor Roosevelt] got even in a way that was almost cruel. She forgave them.
Ralph McGill

Revenge is always the weak pleasure of a little and narrow mind.
Decimus Junius Juvenalis Juvenal

You cannot go ahead while you are getting even.
Dick Armey

Some people would rather get even instead of get ahead.
Les Brown

An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
Mahatma Gandhi

i wish u all the luck with the trial



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[erolz]

isnt this forum a sign -that despite our disagreements-, death killing or murder is not included in our vocabulary?

Whilst largely true it should not be forgotten imo that for some (a small minority) posters here the volcabulary of murder violence and war is still expressed

[DeportedFU2Cyprus]

Dear cypezokyli

Thank you for your kind thoughts and support in my troubles.

You wrote:

but isnt the fact that since the borders have opened no tc or gc has died, a more beautiful truth to mention? isnt the fact that since last year i have tc friends sth more nicer to mention?

I agree that the opening of the borders has been a positive step towards reconciliation, but let's not forget that:

a) The two communities are still living apart, which probably goes a long way to explain why no has yet been killed and

b) It has not all been roses and plain sailing. We have seen CC's serving summons, threats to imprison bailiffs and summons servers. Some CC's barging into their old houses, shouting at the new occupants.

So some conflict still exists and it would be far uglier if the CC's were in power over the MC's and the Turkish army were absent.

You also wrote:

isnt this forum a sign -that despite our disagreements-, death killing or murder is not included in our vocabulary?

But with respect this is "Cyberspace", the "Twilight Zone," so death threats on here are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot.

I do not hate everything about the CC’s and/or Cyprus; it is only your friends that will tell you the truth. So you could see me as a friend, a friend who has been wronged, but a friend none the less. Your enemies will never help you to understand what your faults are and like most nations/nationals, Cyprus and Cypriots have their fair share of faults

Brian Semmens

[Main_Source]

Brian, with your sly segregation tactics...I think RoC did all Cypriots a favour by deporting you.
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