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[Get Real!]

Actually, if you read the article, the Greek Cypriots are saying that they were given the TC land AND money to build houses on it by the Government. So it MAY be the case that "no Cypriot citizen of GC ethnic background that has a right to sell property that was TC". But it would appear that the GC Government believe they have the right to fund the building of houses on TC land. That's going to be awfully messy to untangle through the GC courts, isn't it?

I don't think so. The RoC did the right thing decades ago when they established the “Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service” thereby securing TC property ownership on Cyprus…

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenschart ... enDocument

With only a very small number of cases whereby the government took over some TC land/properties (as in the case of one out of two plots of TC land on the edge of the Larnaca airport - and only ONE being used) under “Obligatory Expropriation Law” which I explained above.

[Vincehugo]

GR. The article was originally published in the GC Cyprus Mail and yes the only place I have been able to find it since is in TRNC archives. It seems like it wasn't very popular in the South! But surely the real question is whether it has been proved to be true or untrue. The rest of your post is just obfuscation.

[Vincehugo]

What - you don't think it is going to be meesy to untangle or you don't think it happened! We all know what the GC Government SAY about Guarantees of TC Property ....

[Get Real!]

GR. The article was originally published in the GC Cyprus Mail and yes the only place I have been able to find it since is in TRNC archives. It seems like it wasn't very popular in the South! But surely the real question is whether it has been proved to be true or untrue. The rest of your post is just obfuscation.

Firstly, do not assume that journalists are a credible source of information… far from it! If a demonstration of “hundreds” of people had taken place then SURELY someone else would’ve written about it!

[Get Real!]

What - you don't think it is going to be meesy to untangle or you don't think it happened! We all know what the GC Government SAY about Guarantees of TC Property ....

The RoC has had decades-old laws in place to protect TC properties so instead of clutching at straws trying to find a fault with them, why don’t you ask the Turkish Cypriots what THEY have had in place for the GC refugees!

Not only have they done ZERO but they happily assisted the Turkish army murder 5,000 odd people and evict 185,000 odd people from their homes so they could grab the loot and you want to criticize the RoC???

Get a life!

[Vincehugo]

GR. Sure - not all journalists tell the truth. But if the Polemidia story is true I can understand why other GC journalists wouldn't be keen to write about it! All I'm asking is for some validation or otherwise of the suggested facts. After all, the GC Government don't have a great track record in the processing of deeds!
We all know how the TRNC have chosen to deal with GC property. Whether you agree with the approach or not, it is their documented policy.
In the South I know that there are decade-old laws protecting TC properties (we keep hearing about them) - but the question here is are they being observed?
So please don't patronise me - if this story is incorrect provide some evidence.

[Get Real!]

GR. Sure - not all journalists tell the truth. But if the Polemidia story is true I can understand why other GC journalists wouldn't be keen to write about it! All I'm asking is for some validation or otherwise of the suggested facts. After all, the GC Government don't have a great track record in the processing of deeds!
We all know how the TRNC have chosen to deal with GC property. Whether you agree with the approach or not, it is their documented policy.
In the South I know that there are decade-old laws protecting TC properties (we keep hearing about them) - but the question here is are they being observed?
So please don't patronise me - if this story is incorrect provide some evidence.

No it doesn't work like that! The onus is ON YOU to provide credible evidence that a demonstration of thousands took place and that such things were said other than a Lucas report.

And while you're at it what have the Turkish Cypriots done with GC properties?

I WANT TO HEAR IT!

[YFred]

What about all the TC land you "appropriated" when will you pay for it or is that "legal" as well?

If you mean "Expropriated" then...

Obligatory Expropriation Law #15/62
(In Greek: Περί Αναγκαστικής Απαλλοτρίωσης Νόμου Αρ. 15/62)

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenschart ... enDocument

In which case, reimbursement/compensation is based on (1) the current value of the land/property being expropriated, (2) plus 9% interest from the date of notice of the intent, (3) plus any damages incurred as a result of the expropriation.

Expropriate you arse, old boy. How can you legally expropriate anything with out informing the owner and giving him a chance to appeal against it?
I think you do know what's coming next, so I will not repeat it, what?

[Vincehugo]

I guess I was being pretty un-REAL-istic to expect a rational exchange on this. And clearly it's you who sets the rules about how it "works" on this board. I flagged up an article written by GC, published in a GC paper, reporting protests and conversations with GC's in Polemidia but I now have to prove that what this journalist said was based on fact. That he didn't just make it up for the fun of it . . despite the "risks" he took in publishing such a controversial article (I have to say I'm a bit surprised that there hasn't been a response to this article from other "more respected" journalists at the time.)
But your response (I assume) is that it just didn't happen unless I can prove it.
Good night!

[YFred]

I guess I was being pretty un-REAL-istic to expect a rational exchange on this. And clearly it's you who sets the rules about how it "works" on this board. I flagged up an article written by GC, published in a GC paper, reporting protests and conversations with GC's in Polemidia but I now have to prove that what this journalist said was based on fact. That he didn't just make it up for the fun of it . . despite the "risks" he took in publishing such a controversial article (I have to say I'm a bit surprised that there hasn't been a response to this article from other "more respected" journalists at the time.)
But your response (I assume) is that it just didn't happen unless I can prove it.
Good night!

Do not worry, just tell them to get stuffed. If they want links they can find it themselves. Judging by how free the media is in the southern lands there will be plenty of info, not. GR just have to get his finger out of his arse for a few minutes and he'll find it. He can then put his finger where it belongs.