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Orams and the Kangaroo Court on the Dark Side

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby boomerang » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:53 am

CopperLine wrote:Kikapu,
When you look back at what I wrote my sentence began with "If elko's report is true then ...."[emphasis added] the corollary of which is that if it is not true then the following did not apply.... :wink:

In any case the right to a fair trial (incl. tribunal, hearing,etc) is a human right and often people through no fault of their own are deprived of this right due to arcane and obscure court custom and practice. It doesn't seem unreasonable to acknowledge that a person might have problems dealing with an official document issued in a language which they do not speak/read regardless of its content.


in OZ in all arms of government, a translator is provided, and if you have no money legal aid is for free...so human rights are not violated...

were the documents bi-lingo?...if not was a translator provided?...was a translator requested and turned down?...the orams obviously had money so no free legal aid was needed...

have all these been requested prior to the court case?..

something tells me ill advice from their solicitor cost them dearly...their solicitor should have been disbarred....
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Postby CBBB » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:16 am

If you receive an official looking document in a language you don't understand wouldn't you immediately try to find out what it said, especially if you could see that an upcoming date is included in it?
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Postby YFred » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:23 am

CBBB wrote:If you receive an official looking document in a language you don't understand wouldn't you immediately try to find out what it said, especially if you could see that an upcoming date is included in it?

Lets face it the GC judge cocked up big time and roc will pay in the end. Move on.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:25 am

CBBB wrote:If you receive an official looking document in a language you don't understand wouldn't you immediately try to find out what it said, especially if you could see that an upcoming date is included in it?


yes you would and you lawyer should have taken appropriate steps, rather than having a good laugh with you...he should have taken appropriate steps...

that's why i said he should get immediately dis-barred...
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Postby boomerang » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:26 am

YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:If you receive an official looking document in a language you don't understand wouldn't you immediately try to find out what it said, especially if you could see that an upcoming date is included in it?

Lets face it the GC judge cocked up big time and roc will pay in the end. Move on.


so in your little mind 4 judges cocked up huh?... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:35 am

boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:If you receive an official looking document in a language you don't understand wouldn't you immediately try to find out what it said, especially if you could see that an upcoming date is included in it?

Lets face it the GC judge cocked up big time and roc will pay in the end. Move on.


so in your little mind 4 judges cocked up huh?... :lol:

What difference does it make how many there were. Are you saying that they had a fair trial.
Are the TCs in the south getting fair trial. Like for like. When a TC claims his land in the south, get the same decisions as GCs? Get a life you antipodean arshole.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:04 pm

CBBB wrote:If you receive an official looking document in a language you don't understand wouldn't you immediately try to find out what it said, especially if you could see that an upcoming date is included in it?


Maybe they don't understand Arabic numerals :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:15 pm

YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:If you receive an official looking document in a language you don't understand wouldn't you immediately try to find out what it said, especially if you could see that an upcoming date is included in it?

Lets face it the GC judge cocked up big time and roc will pay in the end. Move on.


so in your little mind 4 judges cocked up huh?... :lol:

What difference does it make how many there were. Are you saying that they had a fair trial.
Are the TCs in the south getting fair trial. Like for like. When a TC claims his land in the south, get the same decisions as GCs? Get a life you antipodean arshole.


but i thought you said possession is nine tenths of the law...maybe they hold the same views as you or you saying you got it ass about and they can travel the same route as Mr A....enlighten the forum...
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:25 pm

YFred wrote:Lets face it the GC judge cocked up big time and roc will pay in the end. Move on.

Image Judge Y-Fronts has overturned the verdict!

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Postby YFred » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:20 pm

boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:If you receive an official looking document in a language you don't understand wouldn't you immediately try to find out what it said, especially if you could see that an upcoming date is included in it?

Lets face it the GC judge cocked up big time and roc will pay in the end. Move on.


so in your little mind 4 judges cocked up huh?... :lol:

What difference does it make how many there were. Are you saying that they had a fair trial.
Are the TCs in the south getting fair trial. Like for like. When a TC claims his land in the south, get the same decisions as GCs? Get a life you antipodean arshole.


but i thought you said possession is nine tenths of the law...maybe they hold the same views as you or you saying you got it ass about and they can travel the same route as Mr A....enlighten the forum...

Has he got his property back yet, when he does and actually lives in it, you win, in the mean time shut your foul smelling trap, boy.
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