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[Filitsa]

Er, I think you're right.

[Viewpoint]

Filitsa sure ly the sweets in my possession are under my control and whoever I trust and want to share them with, the quality ofmy sweets not longer is any concern of yours and you can do what you want with your own sweets you can polish them if u want its not my business..

[gabaston]

filitsa

time has stood still for us since 74. Can you now appreciate how glad we are to have gotten away from pre 74, and never wish to return there?


sweeties or no f sweeties

[MicAtCyp]

yet do you know how the average TCs evaluates that issue, they get us to do their dirty work and pay us peanuts, we are just cheap labour like the Pakistanis and Sri Lankens....that is not buiding any trust just hate and contempt.....

Do you know why? it's because 65% of them are not even construction workers. They are uneployed people some with University degrees.Yet they work as unskilled workers because they have no other choice. And they go on furter saying we pay them peanuts when it is a well known fact the minimum salary for them is 550 Cyprus Pounds a month whereas a Sri Lankan gets only 150!

In my opinion those people are in fact building hate and those who are totally unskilled should not be allowed to come here and work. Better work in the occupied areas as unskilled workers getting only 100 pounds a month, like the rest of the unskilled workers arriving from Turkey get.

I watched a sort of a poll in the "BIZ" program, where the TC journalist was asking TC people in the streets what is the worse thing they think can happen to them. One said to have my house burned, another to have an accident, however some said "to be a construction worker in the south"

so the steps you mention eg getting rid of Greeks flags although I accept has positive moves are cosmetic and will not build the trust we desire.

The list you mentioned is not going to bring trust to the TCs, is going to bring contemt to the degree the will say "look the idiot GCs gave us everything and we gave them nothing". If you want trust then you must exchange what you want with what we want, and exchange it as agreed without setbacks and cheats.So far all we see from you is this attitute (your list being the perfect example) of give us everything and we will give you our "trusty middle finger".

[insan]

Filitsa... Have you ever wondered which nation the GC national council and the national guard represent since mid-60s? I don't think so...

TCs think that they represent either the GC nation or Hellenic nation. and perhaps that's one of the reason they keep celebrating the anniversary of the Turkish intervention as a day of libertaion from the Hellenic nation.

[Viewpoint]

MicAtCyp

Better work in the occupied areas as unskilled workers getting only 100 pounds a month, like the rest of the unskilled workers arriving from Turkey get.

My gardener whos from Turkey gets 50 new turkish lira a day works a 6 days weeks that 300 a week 1200 a month around 400 cyprus pounds, so more than the sri lanken but the wages in the south arent the best in the world for imported labour. Would any Sri Lankens work in the north?? for 150 Cyprus per month im willing to to pay 200 Cyprus per month.

I watched a sort of a poll in the "BIZ" program, where the TC journalist was asking TC people in the streets what is the worse thing they think can happen to them. One said to have my house burned, another to have an accident, however some said "to be a construction worker in the south"

Yes I agree that many people think that way like thay have failed in their own country (TRNC) and they have to take unskilled jobs in the south.
But with exodus of Turkish workers some of these workers will now remain in the north.

The list you mentioned is not going to bring trust to the TCs, is going to bring contemt to the degree the will say "look the idiot GCs gave us everything and we gave them nothing". If you want trust then you must exchange what you want with what we want, and exchange it as agreed without setbacks and cheats.So far all we see from you is this attitute (your list being the perfect example) of give us everything and we will give you our "trusty middle finger".

Im sorry you feel that way I for one would say hey these guys arent obstructing us anymore they geuinely want us to progress and not keep us hostage we shoudl trust them they have helped us improve our economy, we could work together in a united Cyprus.

I personally am for exchanging or making concessions but measuring what we want against what you want is very difficult, I say Direct trade and flights for Maras you say not fair and we are back to square one.

What are you afraid of?? that we will no longer come to the negotiation table?? so keeping us hostage is your best policy??

[Realist]

I think it's more about giving the wrong message. If we suddenly say business as usual, then what we are really saying to the outside world is that there is no Cyprus problem, the island was divided on mutual agreement because we're okay to allow all to normalise relations with a regime that GC regard as holding their island to ransom.

As frustrating as it must be to be in isolation for 31yrs, it's as tiresome for the GC to continually see their homes and yet not be able to live in them. I don't think anyone can say there is a winner in this situation. Plus for a community that hates the isolation, is it really befitting to celebrate the lowest point in the island's history and the beginning of this isolation? I understand that many TC will say this was 'an intervention that guarenteed our survival' but even if this is the case - the event isn't really something to celebrate is it?

[Filitsa]

the quality ofmy sweets not longer is any concern of yours

I tend to disagree, but I'll leave it at this for now because ...

and you can do what you want with your own sweets you can polish them if u want its not my business..

... I detect a tone of sarcasm here, Viewpoint. Why is it necessary? I'm being sincere.

[Filitsa]

filitsa

time has stood still for us since 74. Can you now appreciate how glad we are to have gotten away from pre 74, and never wish to return there?


sweeties or no f sweeties

I can understand why change was necessary, but I don't understand why you want time to stand still.

"Sweeties/sweets" is Viewpoints choice of parlance. I'm just repeating it.
I'm guessing the "f" represents hostility. Please let me know so I can back off.

[Filitsa]

Filitsa... Have you ever wondered which nation the GC national council and the national guard represent since mid-60s? I don't think so...

TCs think that they represent either the GC nation or Hellenic nation. and perhaps that's one of the reason they keep celebrating the anniversary of the Turkish intervention as a day of libertaion from the Hellenic nation.

I know the political slant of the CNG back then.