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Looted from occupied Cyprus, restored in the USA

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Postby yorgozlu » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:44 pm

growuptcs wrote:
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growuptcs wrote:
YFred wrote:
growuptcs wrote:Momentum shift freddie girl. Can you feel it yet? Feel it and love it.

Those are not my words, they were the choice of your fucking burning in hell president's words sunshine.
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I wish my president was alive to see you leave this island in the near future. Especially all the other turds from Turkey.

Wishful thinking,how about the REALITY?


Reality is, is that Turkey is going to get divided up like a pie in the near future. But I don't expect you to see past your nose.

I dont live in Turkey and I have no desire to at the moment.Tomorrow I might be dead and so might you,so I live for today.
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Postby Talisker » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:33 pm

From the page 'Cultural Heritage of Cyprus' within the official website of the Embassy of the Republic of Cyprus in Washington DC.
http://www.cyprusembassy.net/home/index ... age&pid=12

Placing the information in context:
The Damage Done by Turkey

The Government of Turkey has been found by the European Court of Human Rights as being responsible for violations of human rights and other illegal activities in the occupied part of Cyprus.

The systematic nature of the looting and stealing that has taken place and much of the vandalism, suggests that Turkish official policy has directly or indirectly encouraged much of the destruction, damage and looting that has occurred. Further damage has been caused by erosion and neglect.


Ensuring everyone (including potential purchasers and unscrupulous collectors) understands that the RoC will pursue and seek to regain possession of stolen property, and apprehend the thieves and other parties involved in these illegal actions.
Recovery of Stolen Items

The Cyprus Police Force in cooperation with the Department of Antiquities, the Church of Cyprus and collectors of art treasures, have since 1974 constantly endeavored to inform INTERPOL, police forces of other countries, and the international art market about items stolen or looted from the northern part of Cyprus.

There have been notable successes which resulted in the recovery of icons and ancient earthenware from the UK in 1974, ancient figurines (3000 BC) from auctioneers in London in 1976, icons in the Netherlands in 1981, and a large number of icons, mosaics and frescoes from Germany in 1997 and in the Netherlands in 1998.

One of the most notable cases has been the recovery of mosaics taken from the Church of Kanakaria in 1989, when an Indianapolis Court reaffirmed their ownership by the Church of Cyprus and ordered a US art dealer to return them to Cyprus.

The authorities of Cyprus are constantly trying to obtain possession of art works stolen from the occupied area and are currently in Europe, North America and Japan.


A list of cultural artifacts and properties looted, stolen and vandalised in the occupied area.
Devastation in Occupied Cyprus
One of the most tragic consequences of the 1974 Turkish invasion and continued occupation of the northern part of Cyprus has been the deliberate destruction, looting, pillage and desecration of Cyprus' unique cultural and religious heritage.

The following are examples of such destruction and pillage of the cultural heritage in the occupied part of Cyprus:

(1) Ancient Monuments:
In accordance with the Antiquities Law, Ancient Monuments are divided in two categories. Monuments assigned to the first category, Schedule A, are the property of the government and are managed by the Department of Antiquities. Monuments in Schedule B are private property. Monuments in the occupied area, including those of extraordinary importance such as Enkomi, Salamis, Soloi, Lampousa, Bellapais and the Monasteries of Apostolos Varnavas and Apostolos Andreas are not accessible to the Department of Antiquities. Out of the total of 197 Schedule A Monuments, 76 are in the occupied areas, whereas for Monuments of Schedule B, out of a total of 974, 130 are in the occupied areas. There are, therefore, 206 Ancient Monuments situated in the occupied areas.

There are reliable reports of abandoned archaeological sites, large scale theft, looting and damage. Notable examples are the pulling down of the city walls at Vouni, looting at ancient Enkomi and Salamis, and theft of statues. In some cases these have come to light because of attempts to sell items, for example the purchase in 1974 by the government of Cyprus of a four wheeled bronze Mycenean stand placed on sale in Frankfurt by Turkish antique smugglers.

(2) Museums:
Three of the island's museums, the Famagusta District Museum, the Kyrenia Shipwreck Museum and the Kyrenia Folk Art Museum are in the occupied area. From the first, gold jewellry and pottery are missing, from the second, antiquities were stolen and from the third all the silver objects were stolen.

(3) Archaeological Mission Stores:
The stores of two French missions as well as the stores of an Italian, a USA, a Canadian and a British mission were located in the occupied area, and all have been looted.

(4) Private Archaeological Collections:
There were 150 private archaeological collections in the occupied area that were registered with the Department of Antiquities, consisting of thousands of objects. The fate of these is unknown.

(5) Churches:
In 1974 there were more than 520 Greek Orthodox and Armenian churches in the occupied area. There is information on the fate of 244 of these.Based on this information 100 were looted or vandalized, 68 were converted to mosques, 14 are used by the Turkish military, 11 are used as sheep pens/stables and one as a barn. The loss in terms of structures (including a number of churches pulled down), fittings and movable items, in particular valuable icons, is enormous in terms of both cultural and monetary value.

As is the loss due to vandalism and the defacing of frescoes, buildings and monuments etc. The change in the use of buildings of Christian worship is especially aggravating (i.e. Ayia Anastasia church, the Armenian monastery of St. Magar).

(6) Icons:
Most of the movable items in churches have been stolen, removed or destroyed. Valuable icons, wall paintings or fixtures of churches, all stolen are found in art galleries or other locations throughout the world. The 1997 arrest in Germany of one Turkish smuggler of cultural property, brought to light hundreds of icons stolen from 46 churches in the occupied area. Overall, however, it is estimated that over 15,000 icons are missing. Some of these have been put up for sale by art dealers in Western Europe and innocent European buyers have fallen victim to the smugglers.

(7) Cemeteries:
Most of the Greek Orthodox and Armenian Cemeteries in the occupied area have been destroyed. Evidence is available for 26 cemeteries that have been totally destroyed.

(8)Libraries:
In 1974 there were 107 public libraries in Cyprus, of which 36 were in the occupied area. There were also 194 school libraries in that area. In addition the mobile library of the Ministry of Education was also located there. Most of these libraries have been destroyed, as were many collections of rare books. From time to time stolen or looted rare books appear for sale at auctions in Western Europe.

(9) Private Art Collections:
There were a number of art galleries, collections and studios in the occupied area, of which three art galleries, 10 art collections and 4 art studios cooperated with the Ministry of Education. Numerous modern monuments were located in the occupied area. While seven folk and other cultural societies were forcibly displaced from their roots, rare and valuable books, paintings and other items have, from time to time, been put up for sale by Western European art dealers.

Surely Turks and TCs must find this to be completely and utterly shameful?
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:30 pm

I can't understand why GR challenged the TCs to contribute to this thread.

The TCs have contributed nothing to our Cypriot heritage and why in YFreds words, "I don't give a shit".

They cannot prove any real claim on Cyprus on a serious cultural and heritage level, unlike the GCs, and this thread exposes that, because they are reduced to dismissing it.

This is because the Turks have nothing else to offer the world other than a kebab shop on the major streets of the civilised world.
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Postby YFred » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:56 pm

Me Ed wrote:I can't understand why GR challenged the TCs to contribute to this thread.

The TCs have contributed nothing to our Cypriot heritage and why in YFreds words, "I don't give a shit".

They cannot prove any real claim on Cyprus on a serious cultural and heritage level, unlike the GCs, and this thread exposes that, because they are reduced to dismissing it.

This is because the Turks have nothing else to offer the world other than a kebab shop on the major streets of the civilised world.

You are being almost blind Me Ed saying we have no claim in Cyprus. I have a mechanical tool here that says "I do" on it. GR type tool. Now what I mean.

Also I have pieces of paper which proves my claim which are in duplicate copies, have been rolled up in a cylindrical shape set in glue just in case they are required to remind you of my claim. Do you also know what I mean by that, sunshine.

You shameful bastard. You steal our land and now claim we have no claim on it. Yeah right.
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:14 am

YFred wrote:
Me Ed wrote:I can't understand why GR challenged the TCs to contribute to this thread.

The TCs have contributed nothing to our Cypriot heritage and why in YFreds words, "I don't give a shit".

They cannot prove any real claim on Cyprus on a serious cultural and heritage level, unlike the GCs, and this thread exposes that, because they are reduced to dismissing it.

This is because the Turks have nothing else to offer the world other than a kebab shop on the major streets of the civilised world.

You are being almost blind Me Ed saying we have no claim in Cyprus. I have a mechanical tool here that says "I do" on it. GR type tool. Now what I mean.

Also I have pieces of paper which proves my claim which are in duplicate copies, have been rolled up in a cylindrical shape set in glue just in case they are required to remind you of my claim. Do you also know what I mean by that, sunshine.

You shameful bastard. You steal our land and now claim we have no claim on it. Yeah right.
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Very well put YFred; but I await the serious TC contribution to Cypriot culture and heritage.
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Postby Talisker » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:26 am

YFred wrote:
Me Ed wrote:I can't understand why GR challenged the TCs to contribute to this thread.

The TCs have contributed nothing to our Cypriot heritage and why in YFreds words, "I don't give a shit".

They cannot prove any real claim on Cyprus on a serious cultural and heritage level, unlike the GCs, and this thread exposes that, because they are reduced to dismissing it.

This is because the Turks have nothing else to offer the world other than a kebab shop on the major streets of the civilised world.

You are being almost blind Me Ed saying we have no claim in Cyprus. I have a mechanical tool here that says "I do" on it. GR type tool. Now what I mean.

Also I have pieces of paper which proves my claim which are in duplicate copies, have been rolled up in a cylindrical shape set in glue just in case they are required to remind you of my claim. Do you also know what I mean by that, sunshine.

You shameful bastard. You steal our land and now claim we have no claim on it. Yeah right.
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Wow, YFred, this is breathtaking!

I really think you should assess yourself against the following characteristics, known as 'Hare's checklist', for antisocial personality, sociopathy, and psychopathy. I believe you'd score very highly!

1. GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM -- the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

3. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM -- an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have a low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.

4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.

5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one's victims.

6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.

7. SHALLOW AFFECT -- emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.

8. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY -- a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.

9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE -- an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.

10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR -- a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

12. EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.

13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.

14. IMPULSIVITY -- the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

15. IRRESPONSIBILITY -- repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.

16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS -- a failure to accept responsibility for one's actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

17. MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS -- a lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

18. JUVENILE DELINQUENCY -- behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.

19. REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE -- a revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

20. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY -- a diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.
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