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[Pyrpolizer]

Turkey will never become full EU member, all they can hope is for some special relation.
So the matter of deroggations might or might not be in her way. Depends what this special relation would be...

[YFred]

Turkey will never become full EU member, all they can hope is for some special relation.
So the matter of deroggations might or might not be in her way. Depends what this special relation would be...

Pyro man, can we get our facts right on simple things that can be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
Turkey has been member of Customs Union since mid 90s. How much ore special can they get. There is no other relationship with the EU then full member. Why are you wasting your breath talking nonsense.
Erdogan has said many times, these are full negotiations and can only lead to full membership. Would you like me to write it in Greek? Perhaps it would help.

[Pyrpolizer]

YFred it is not the EU who will offer a special relationship. It is Turkey herself who will ask for it when she realizes she cannot comply to the chapters she negotiates upon or else she runs the danger of getting split into 1000 Turkeys before she even makes it to full membership. Think what would happen once she is obliged to change her constitution...

[YFred]

YFred it is not the EU who will offer a special relationship. It is Turkey herself who will ask for it when she realizes she cannot comply to the chapters she negotiates upon or else she runs the danger of getting split into 1000 Turkeys before she even makes it to full membership. Think what would happen once she is obliged to change her constitution...

Sure as day turns to night she will negotiate and change what ever is necessary to join the EU. As far as Cyprus is concerned the opening of the ports is needed whilst withdrawal of the soldiers or settlers is not.
What is it the Turkey will not be able to do that will block her entry to EU in the next 10 years. If you have to wait for 10 years to extract some minor favourable term about the negotiations it will 10 years too late.

[wyoming cowboy]

Would it be outof the question that one day if Turkey strays too far away and keeps dealing with the Taliban and Iran, and on top of all that threatening to build nuclear weapons, that a naval blockade be implemented by the European Union ie France, Spain, Greece, and even Italy....to bring the Turks to obedience once again.....and if they try to break the blockade to continually bombard the occuppied areas until they submit to the will of the west.....

The simple truth is that Turkey ain't entering the EU in the near future, if ever. They are well aware of this fact and see no need to appease Europe.

Cypriots are well aware of this fact also and likewise see know reason to appease Turkey.

I know Malapapa, but who's side is time on? THat's the real ball breaker.

Time is on the side of the Cypriots, who have existed on the island for millennia before the modern state of Turkey - and all the other invaders before it ever reared their ugly head. And Cypriots will exist well after Turkey, its apologists and their deluded sense of adequacy, have disappeared also.

Malapapa, that is the most hopeless wishful thinking if ever I saw one. Everybody knows and accepts that it's the reverse. The longer this goes on, the more difficult the solution. However feel free to believe in the father Christmas. One day we may all be proved wrong.

[Malapapa]

The simple truth is that Turkey ain't entering the EU in the near future, if ever. They are well aware of this fact and see no need to appease Europe.

Cypriots are well aware of this fact also and likewise see know reason to appease Turkey.

I know Malapapa, but who's side is time on? THat's the real ball breaker.

Time is on the side of the Cypriots, who have existed on the island for millennia before the modern state of Turkey - and all the other invaders before it ever reared their ugly head. And Cypriots will exist well after Turkey, its apologists and their deluded sense of adequacy, have disappeared also.

Malapapa, that is the most hopeless wishful thinking if ever I saw one. Everybody knows and accepts that it's the reverse. The longer this goes on, the more difficult the solution. However feel free to believe in the father Christmas. One day we may all be proved wrong.

Yes, but what would an apologist, with a deluded sense of adequacy, know?

[YFred]

Would it be outof the question that one day if Turkey strays too far away and keeps dealing with the Taliban and Iran, and on top of all that threatening to build nuclear weapons, that a naval blockade be implemented by the European Union ie France, Spain, Greece, and even Italy....to bring the Turks to obedience once again.....and if they try to break the blockade to continually bombard the occuppied areas until they submit to the will of the west.....

The simple truth is that Turkey ain't entering the EU in the near future, if ever. They are well aware of this fact and see no need to appease Europe.

Cypriots are well aware of this fact also and likewise see know reason to appease Turkey.

I know Malapapa, but who's side is time on? THat's the real ball breaker.

Time is on the side of the Cypriots, who have existed on the island for millennia before the modern state of Turkey - and all the other invaders before it ever reared their ugly head. And Cypriots will exist well after Turkey, its apologists and their deluded sense of adequacy, have disappeared also.

Malapapa, that is the most hopeless wishful thinking if ever I saw one. Everybody knows and accepts that it's the reverse. The longer this goes on, the more difficult the solution. However feel free to believe in the father Christmas. One day we may all be proved wrong.

Midnight Cowboy you have some very dark thoughts, may I recommend that you use a softer saddle when you are riding your horse. It seems to be effecting your brain. Or is it that your brain is in your posterior?
Where the hell did that come from. You want to bomb Northern Cyprus because Turkey is friends with Iran. You are truly a throw back from the middle ages.

[Get Real!]

As far as Cyprus is concerned the opening of the ports is needed whilst withdrawal of the soldiers or settlers is not.

Better wait till the RoC takes over the EU reigns in 2012 and then talk…

[wyoming cowboy]

And youreally think that Europe will allow Turkey to dictate to it where and when they can drill for petoleum, if you need an example look in Iraq to see what denial to daddy can do to you and your Turkey...if you notice in the European union statement ordering the Turk troops out of cyprus, they also mentioned that Turkeys threats for the ROC drilling for its oil is also unacceptable

Would it be outof the question that one day if Turkey strays too far away and keeps dealing with the Taliban and Iran, and on top of all that threatening to build nuclear weapons, that a naval blockade be implemented by the European Union ie France, Spain, Greece, and even Italy....to bring the Turks to obedience once again.....and if they try to break the blockade to continually bombard the occuppied areas until they submit to the will of the west.....

The simple truth is that Turkey ain't entering the EU in the near future, if ever. They are well aware of this fact and see no need to appease Europe.

Cypriots are well aware of this fact also and likewise see know reason to appease Turkey.

I know Malapapa, but who's side is time on? THat's the real ball breaker.

Time is on the side of the Cypriots, who have existed on the island for millennia before the modern state of Turkey - and all the other invaders before it ever reared their ugly head. And Cypriots will exist well after Turkey, its apologists and their deluded sense of adequacy, have disappeared also.

Malapapa, that is the most hopeless wishful thinking if ever I saw one. Everybody knows and accepts that it's the reverse. The longer this goes on, the more difficult the solution. However feel free to believe in the father Christmas. One day we may all be proved wrong.

Midnight Cowboy you have some very dark thoughts, may I recommend that you use a softer saddle when you are riding your horse. It seems to be effecting your brain. Or is it that your brain is in your posterior?
Where the hell did that come from. You want to bomb Northern Cyprus because Turkey is friends with Iran. You are truly a throw back from the middle ages.