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paliometoxo

..yes thats what you runaway and the other partition turks sound like worse then the ensosis freaks we had before the war... such hatred in you holding onto the past with no good reason, your esxcuses that only people believed in the 500 years ago time before dinosours your reasons are just childish oh your going to kill us as soon as our army leave..

Then why do you want them gone?

et me ask you something, if you have 44k army here and we have 100k and no more army will be able to cvome from turkey IF we attack right? so why not use our 100k kill you people and then watch as the turkish army from 75k cant come to cyprus.. because you say if they withdraw they cant come back, but what about the ones not here? do they have an expection since you already have turkish army here?

Exactly.

i dont know what happened to you all to be spreading so much hatred and demanding not only equal rights but more rights in our island 82/18 if you dont like being a minority why be here? just like in germany you peope have a minority and complain and bitch.. why be there? since you people love your mumma turkey so much and are being killed off anyway...oh we would rather our mumma turkey kill us then you...

We are indigenous to Cyprus why shouldn't we be here, its you that Deny's us this right and want to use its numerical advantage to rule the whole island as for hate I wouldn't call it that Id call it mistrust we do not trust GCs at all, that's how strongly we feel today and wed prefer to be killed off by Turkey as you put it that capitulate to GCs demands that will force us into minority status under GCs.

only turkey is doing that not us god you peopel sound like such babies. im sorry.. its people like you that make a solution impossible you zan and the other hardcore i want to kill gc hater two states.. maybe we should be chanting enosis again on top of your takism screams and start another war? and think like apes

You have achieve enosis indirectly through the EU so chanting it will do nothing but confirm that enosis is not dead and buried, the only way TCs would dissolve the TRNC and accept union is with a BBF with political equality of the 2 states, when will you get this into your head?

im glad its just the older people that think like you we wont have this problem for to many generations longer. eventually the peace loving cypriots who want ONE state and none of this turkish BS two states under one bull shit that they are having a president in our south and us nothing in the north.. that will be in power and the majority and we can silence those people who hate the other side and do not want a solution, eventually there will be none of you left to not want a solution.. i dont mean just TCS who want partition i mean also gcs who dont want one either.. im not having a go only at tc partition ists your both just as bad as eachother and think its a cleaver way to think that your excuses and rubbish about us killing you is a valid excuse.. you might have gotten away with it in 1974 but no one buys that crap now for either side

Have you spoke with the TC young generation they do not trust you either and prefer a 2 state solution where Gcs rule on one side and TCs on the other, you really need to take a reality check and mix more with TCs who always give diplomatic responses not to offend but often if pushed will tell you how they really feel about a solution.

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no all my tcs friends my age want one state and hate the mainland turks... just fyi and mainland turks i met in england who dont care about cyprus and where good people.. only older people i see with such hatred and the children of these people who they teach to hate.

the tcs have every right to be here but that does not mean the minority becomes the majority and tells us what to do with the island and has more power then us. two states and say over the whole island and we have nothing in the north? and thats fair to the turks? a good comprimise? no.. thats just taking it too far.

and if the turkish army cant come back after they leave they wont be able to come now not being in cyprus either..

there will never be two econised states in cyprus, enosis with all of cyprus to greece will happen before takism happens..

the anti peace people form both side will be no longer they will shut up and stop causing problems.

you accuse the gcs but your being just as bad as the enosis fanatics with all this we are scared and need two states crap .. :/

pardon my french. you tcs have as much right as we do to be here you have the right but not to have complete control and give half of our island to turkey.

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no all my tcs friends my age want one state and hate the mainland turks... just fyi

They are a minority and let me warn you TCs never reveal their true feelings for fear of hurting the other person that's how they are raised, they prefer to be silent.

[Pyrpolizer]

runaway winner, we love you the TRNC.

and we love our yavru vatan.

We love the TRNC the product of GC domination and aggression.

Wow... that's masochism no?

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no all my tcs friends my age want one state and hate the mainland turks... just fyi

They are a minority and let me warn you TCs never reveal their true feelings for fear of hurting the other person that's how they are raised, they prefer to be silent.

so why did the tcs speak against the army and tell them to go home?

why do tcs speak out against the army? so many of them do. they are not allowed to raise a flag they have to promote divison.. so its more like fear of the turk army shutting them up..

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no all my tcs friends my age want one state and hate the mainland turks... just fyi

They are a minority and let me warn you TCs never reveal their true feelings for fear of hurting the other person that's how they are raised, they prefer to be silent.

so why did the tcs speak against the army and tell them to go home?

why do tcs speak out against the army? so many of them do. they are not allowed to raise a flag they have to promote divison.. so its more like fear of the turk army shutting them up..

You obviously do not know TCs if they want and believe in something they speak up and fight back so your friends arent telling you the full story.

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no they are.. i believe them.. and the news we see thems peaking putting graffiti on the walls.. everytime my tc friends see a mainland turk they laugh and say they speak like idiots and we hate them they want turks to go back home.. im just quoting what they say.. why would they lie to me like that? i am going to murder them? lol

and no they are nto scared of that i am one gc and they are many of them in the NORTH unless you think they will be scared of me with the army here also... i dont go into the north to harm people i like my tc friends and they are very friendly also

he wouldent be inviting me into the north if they thought bad things about me

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no they are.. i believe them.. and the news we see thems peaking putting graffiti on the walls.. everytime my tc friends see a mainland turk they laugh and say they speak like idiots and we hate them they want turks to go back home.. im just quoting what they say.. why would they lie to me like that? i am going to murder them? lol

and no they are nto scared of that i am one gc and they are many of them in the NORTH unless you think they will be scared of me with the army here also... i dont go into the north to harm people i like my tc friends and they are very friendly also

he wouldent be inviting me into the north if they thought bad things about me

You are right we are very protective of our GC visitors I am the same, but we are talking the other way around 1 TC in the south does not feel safe if they say they do then they are lieing, please ask your friends if they accept becoming a minority in a unitary state ruled by GCs with no safeguards or guarantees to protect their rights? you will be suprised at their answers if they are bold enough to tell you what they really think.

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i dont feel safe in the north either on my own.. but with my tc friends i feel ok.

you say this gc state thing but it would be gc and tc.. what the turks are asking for is two states.. a president in our state and us get NOTHING in the north no elections NOTHING we are allowed to live in the north and we are supposed to feel lucky to have this? so from the minority with equal say you want to become the owners.. how is that fair for us?? you say you want equality and fairness for all but you really mean for the turks only and the gcs can have nothing..

thats not equality to me.. why should tcs have any say in the south and us none in the north while they even have a president on our side since you want two states? if its two states then the turks should have nothing in the south either and keep to their own side..

instead we have many turks coming to the south for jobs healthcare many turks we have as doctors and working as nurses in high jobs...

at least make it a fair deal not totally pro turkish plan and then say your being to kind to us :/

we must remove the walls the hatred and go back to a new cyprus with no fighting between the sides

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paliometoxo

i dont feel safe in the north either on my own.. but with my tc friends i feel ok.

I understand I feel the same in the south, this is just further proof that both sides mistrust each other and it will only take just a few sparks to start problems if we are forced to live together.

you say this gc state thing but it would be gc and tc.. what the turks are asking for is two states.. a president in our state and us get NOTHING in the north no elections NOTHING we are allowed to live in the north and we are supposed to feel lucky to have this? so from the minority with equal say you want to become the owners.. how is that fair for us?? you say you want equality and fairness for all but you really mean for the turks only and the gcs can have nothing..

You have it all wrong a BBF is not 2 countries but 2 administrations one GC and one TC isnt that equal? everyone will be allowed to settle where they wish north or south, isnt that eqaulity? you want to give us equality as long as we are a minority in a GC state where GCs have the advantage and can misuse it to our detrement, what will you do to stop discrimination against us? or will you turn a blind eye when we are left running around the corridors of the ECHR.

thats not equality to me.. why should tcs have any say in the south and us none in the north while they even have a president on our side since you want two states? if its two states then the turks should have nothing in the south either and keep to their own side..

With a federal structure we will make decisions for the benefit of the whole island together, isnt that equality?

instead we have many turks coming to the south for jobs healthcare many turks we have as doctors and working as nurses in high jobs...

What are you saying here? turn them away if you wish, stop healthcare and ids if you can, but accept the backlash that would come with it. Where are there TC doctors in the south? Id like to meet them.

at least make it a fair deal not totally pro turkish plan and then say your being to kind to us

BBF with political equality is all we can offer.

we must remove the walls the hatred and go back to a new cyprus with no fighting between the sides

This will only happen in time and with a solution that incorporates checks and balances to make sure neither side can try to manipulate or chnage the signed agreement without the agreement of the other side.