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[Adam3777]

And you make Greece seem like a victim!! One thing life teaches you adam, just in case it hasn't!! Everybody is a victim! Treaty of Lausanne is one of the base parts of Turkey, and just in case you have the smallest idea to destroy that, you will have to get past our dead body!! The Armenian genocide, I do not deny it AND I do not accept it, I need a solid evidence that I can believe as I've said this many times in this forum. What about the Greek planes flyingover Turkish territory and coming very close to water space of Turkey!! But if you open this kind of discussion, it will be endless and will provoke nationalist feelings and just make people enemies to each other!! So.....how you want it!!

I'm not saying that Greece is totally blameless. I'm just saying that it seemed like (to me at least) that you made Turkey this poor country that everyone takes advantage of... when its not. And about the teaty of Lausanne... my point about that is that I don't feel that it was right to expell the Greeks from their homeland in Asia Minor... just as it wasn't right to expell Turkish people from their homeland in Greece... to me, it seems like ethnic cleansing...

As for solid evidence... how about eye witnesses... who still exsist. Anywho, we are not here to discuss the Armenian genocide.

Greeks and Turks have so much in common... I just wish everyone would get along...

[Adam3777]

adam 377

have you been to istanbul?

at is heart there is the covered bazaar, smack in the middle of which is a restaraunt, it is greek with greek flags all over it.

do you think this is just a token gesture?

or is there another explanation why the turks dont burn those greek flags, like the greeks recently burnt turkish flags?

Many many Turks love Greeks, and I know Greeks who love Turks... My point was what happened in the past. Greek and Turkish relations have warmed recently so much and I am so happy about that...

[Turkey (( *]

how is this discussion doing harm? im pointing out the facts...Turkish fighter planes consistantly cross deep into Greece's waters. There's crossing the border and then there is flying into the heart of Greek airspace.

In 2002, Turkish fighter jets even harrased a small passenger plane flying from Kos to Athens.

This discussion CAN provoke hatred in people against Greece or Turkey. Because we are just throwing accusations at each other! And are you saying the Greeks are just blameless, Main_source??

[Main_Source]

Greeks blameless for what? Be more general.
Im pointing out a fact about Turkey's airspace violations.

and just because I loathe and dispise the Babylonian governement of Turkey, it doesnt mean I hate all Turkish people.

[Murtaza]

Main_Source

Should we open another nonsense discussion?
This problems are between greece and us.
You should firstly choose your problems.
how will you live together, or how will you live not together.

[Murtaza]

And about the teaty of Lausanne... my point about that is that I don't feel that it was right to expell the Greeks from their homeland in Asia Minor... just as it wasn't right to expell Turkish people from their homeland in Greece... to me, it seems like ethnic cleansing...


Yes this is true, that agreement is complately a crime made by greece and turkey.

[Main_Source]

Main_Source

Should we open another nonsense discussion?
This problems are between greece and us.
You should firstly choose your problems.
how will you live together, or how will you live not together

If you mean how will I live together with Turkish Cypriots...well i've been to school with many TC and still have TC friends. I have no problem living with TC and it isnt an issue for me. What IS an issue is people wanting to take away the homes of innocent others and keep them.

As a GC, I and many others on this forum have conceded to the wrong doings of Greeks/ GC in the past...but still hear the same old stories from TC saying that we think we are always right and and the Turkish troops should stay in Cyprus because of this.

[Adam3777]

And about the teaty of Lausanne... my point about that is that I don't feel that it was right to expell the Greeks from their homeland in Asia Minor... just as it wasn't right to expell Turkish people from their homeland in Greece... to me, it seems like ethnic cleansing...


Yes this is true, that agreement is complately a crime made by greece and turkey.

Especially since it went purely by religious lines... there were Greeks that were Muslim and Turks that were Christian... Why should they have to be a part of a different culture simply because of their religion?

[-mikkie2-]

The ignorance of some people in this forum amazes me!

Don't any of you realise that it was the treaty of Laussane that annexed Cyprus to Britain? Do you also know that Turkey does NOT recognise the treaty of Laussane? That is why Turkey is constantly overflying Greek airspace, constantly harrassing ships in the Aegean and constantly laying claim to islands. The treaty dealt with the territorial aspects of who has juristiction over what in the Aegean and Turkey doesn't like it!

[detailer]

Don't any of you realise that it was the treaty of Laussane that annexed Cyprus to Britain? Do you also know that Turkey does NOT recognise the treaty of Laussane? That is why Turkey is constantly overflying Greek airspace, constantly harrassing ships in the Aegean and constantly laying claim to islands. The treaty dealt with the territorial aspects of who has juristiction over what in the Aegean and Turkey doesn't like it!

Completely irrelevant.