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The TC flags on the road to Lefkosia...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby demetriou_74 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:38 pm

Turkey (( * wrote:Ok, let's say the TCs remove the flag, what are the GCs gonna do as answer?? And what if they don't answer!!


call it the first step to an apology. gc's are no angels but the tc's have done worse to greeks than the greeks ahve done to turks. honesly the trnc needs to begin economical trade with the roc so it only makes sense.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:21 pm

With your answer demetre, forget removing the flag, I would do more to provoke and piss you people off. Stop acting selfishly, if you don't give an answer to a good will gesture, why should the other side make a good will gesture!! Think from different perspectives!!
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Postby demetriou_74 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:30 pm

but we can not remove a hate-promoting flag because we dont have one.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:44 pm

What about all the Greek flags we hear in this forum!! If you use your brain, you always find something to do instead of playing with words... :roll:
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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:44 pm

With your answer demetre, forget removing the flag, I would do more to provoke and piss you people off. Stop acting selfishly, if you don't give an answer to a good will gesture, why should the other side make a good will gesture!! Think from different perspectives!!


And here we have the culture clash between Turkish and European attitudes!

Making a gesture of good will is not about getting something in exchange otherwise it is not a good will gesture anymore!
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Postby Murtaza » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:45 pm

we have no power to remove that flag
but you are sure power to change this "Grivas, Drakos, Afxentiou - Archangels of Freedom"

look yourself than others.
If all of TC and GC do this, you can have your island.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:48 pm

-mikkie2- wrote:
With your answer demetre, forget removing the flag, I would do more to provoke and piss you people off. Stop acting selfishly, if you don't give an answer to a good will gesture, why should the other side make a good will gesture!! Think from different perspectives!!


And here we have the culture clash between Turkish and European attitudes!

Making a gesture of good will is not about getting something in exchange otherwise it is not a good will gesture anymore!


So this is the problem of Europeans, they just wish good will, give nothing but headache.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:50 pm

-mikkie2- wrote:
With your answer demetre, forget removing the flag, I would do more to provoke and piss you people off. Stop acting selfishly, if you don't give an answer to a good will gesture, why should the other side make a good will gesture!! Think from different perspectives!!


And here we have the culture clash between Turkish and European attitudes!

Making a gesture of good will is not about getting something in exchange otherwise it is not a good will gesture anymore!


Ok, mikkie, then I will wait for GCs to make a good will gesture!! Fair enough!!
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Postby rotate » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:04 pm

Possibly my thought processes are a little of the wall but those flags on the moutainside overlooking Nicosia are a great opener for a conversation about the situation in Cyprus with my first time foreign visitors to the RoC.

Whilst the flags can be regarded as insulting to the population in the RoC and are in my view the equivelent of a coach load of football team supporters "mooning" the opposing teams supporters on a motorway journey they are extremely helpful in explaining what has happened here in Cyprus.

My visitors are government officials and business people from the middle east where the Ottoman Turks once ruled who are mindful of their own histories and conclude that Turkey's foreign policies have little changed in the last one hundred years or so. The visitors sympathies tend not to be with those with whom they share the same religion but with those with whom they have the shared historical experience of colonism be it Turkish, British or French.

The flags whilst celebrating the Turkish identity and the prowess of the Turkish military also serve to shoot Turkey in the foot when viewed by the outsider.

Perhaps the RoC could issue a new postage stamp depicting these flags and entitled 'A European View of Cyprus' :roll:
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Postby Turkey (( * » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:19 pm

While you people moan all the time with Turkey "occupying" your countries and "torturing" you, let me moan about my own country!! Can anybody tell me what was happening before the Turkish Independence War?? We shed soo much blood for our country, we fought against the Italians, the French, The British, The Greeks!! These countries even signed a treaty dividing Turkey between themselves and leaving only Ankara for the Turks!! The Western countries have done this to us!! Why should we listen to what the Western countries say, after these things??? There is no reason!! Next superpower isn't Europe, it isn't USA!! We keep good relations with Asia and in a few decades, Europe will be like Asia ten years ago, with no power!!Don't you agree?? Or do you still believe that "the sick man of the world", Europe, will get better??
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