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[-mikkie2-]

The opening of the border was more a political decision rather than a good will gesture of Turkey or the TC's towards the GC's.

What is needed is more symbolic gestures. One such gesture is to remove the flag from Pendadactilos. This is the biggest and brashest sign of nationalism anyone can expect to see in Cyprus.

[erolz]

The opening of the border was more a political decision rather than a good will gesture of Turkey or the TC's towards the GC's.

I am not arguing that it was or was not. I am simply pointing out that the RoC including Turkish as a language on government documents and bank notes etc does not per se mean it is done as a gesture of goodwill. Such acts serve GC interests (by supporting their claim to be the government of all cypriots - a poltical agenda). That's all I was saying.

What is needed is more symbolic gestures. One such gesture is to remove the flag from Pendadactilos. This is the biggest and brashest sign of nationalism anyone can expect to see in Cyprus.

I do not disagree with you re the flags. I do not think they bring the TC community any benefits let alone Cypriots in general and if I had the power I would have them removed instantly.

[-mikkie2-]

I do not disagree with you re the flags. I do not think they bring the TC community any benefits let alone Cypriots in general and if I had the power I would have them removed instantly.

Very fine words Erol and I don't doubt your integrity, but could you honestly say that you could openly campaign for their removal in the north without fearing for your life?

[DeportedFU2Cyprus]

Dear All

Just so we have some balance in this argument; how do you think the Muslim Cypriots and the Turks got the idea for their flag on the mountain?

Here's a little clue; they were shown how by: ..............................

"The Christian Cypriots and their old pal Grivas"

Have a look at this picture from the 50's



It's a real eye opener, I can't remember anyone complaining about the CC's provoking the MC's with their "nationalistic symbols?"


Brian Semmens

[Murtaza]

Deported

how do you know that much about cyprus?

Well It looks like greeks did same to Turks and none of them remind this us.

[Yiannis]

Just so we have some balance in this argument; how do you think the Muslim Cypriots and the Turks got the idea for their flag on the mountain?

As i said in an earlier post of mine i dont see any provocative in asking for Enosis in the 50s before the independance since it was what the majority of the island wanted and there was nothing wrong asking for that provided offcourse that the proper guarantees are given to also protect the TCs rights. Now asking for enosis after 1960 then yes thats provocative.
DFU2C i think the topic that u have choosen to blame GCs is just cheap try something else to heal ur hatred.

[MicAtCyp]

Have a look at this picture from the 50's

So I understand your web-site in Portugal called
http://www.villa4-u.com
is dealing with the sale of villas, and has nothing better to do other than collecting pictures for propaganda purposes against the GCs as this one
http://www.villa4-u.com/Enosis.JPG
May I ask the location of the villas you are selling or do I have to guess?

[cannedmoose]

Have a look at this picture from the 50's

So I understand your web-site in Portugal called
http://www.villa4-u.com
is dealing with the sale of villas, and has nothing better to do other than collecting pictures for propaganda purposes against the GCs as this one
http://www.villa4-u.com/Enosis.JPG
May I ask the location of the villas you are selling or do I have to guess?

Interesting...

Brian, as you stated, that picture was from the 50s, when Enosis was no directed against the TCs so much as the British, so that has nothing to do with this discussion. In all my travels in Cyprus (and I've been almost everywhere, particularly in the mountains), I have never seen something analogous to the Pendedactylos flag anywhere, even where mountains in the GC controlled areas overlook flat land to the north, where such a flag would be visible for miles. This flag discussion is about the present day and why the flag remains.

Out of interest, I'd like to ask the TCs on the forum a question. Firstly, as I asked previously, when was the flag put up there? Was it 1983? Surely this flag has to be maintained as the whitewash on the rocks will degrade, so there must be a budget for this somewhere, or is it maintained by extreme nationalist groups rather than the government. Also, if the flag is unpopular in the north, why isn't it removed? Has anyone asked the government to do something about it as a gesture of friendship. If, for example, it was replaced with a huge dove, would this not be a massive propaganda victory for the north? I'm sure it would be covered by news organisations from outside Cyprus.

[RAFAELLA]

Have a look at this picture from the 50's

So I understand your web-site in Portugal called
http://www.villa4-u.com
is dealing with the sale of villas, and has nothing better to do other than collecting pictures for propaganda purposes against the GCs as this one
http://www.villa4-u.com/Enosis.JPG
May I ask the location of the villas you are selling or do I have to guess?

Well, I guess everything is so clear now Mic
Let us see if you get an answer to your last question.

[cannedmoose]

I'm surprised he had to embed it within his own website, particularly since I found it on the web here

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/pics/mo ... rus-02.jpg