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The TC flags on the road to Lefkosia...

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Postby magikthrill » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:11 pm

Murtaza wrote:do you have pictures of that flags?

I made my army duty at Gökçeada(Imroz), and we have a flag like this too. (pictured at a mountain)

I think It is not related with cyprus.


gokceada had also been touchy ground between greeks and turks in the beginning of the prevoius century and despite its large greek speaking population it was given in the end to Turkey with the treaty of Lausanne.
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Postby Adam3777 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:21 pm

Yiannis wrote:Sadly all goverment buildings and schools have the Greek flag. I have publically said before in this forum that im totally against that and its ashame that no steps have been taken by the parliament to abolish the greek flag as a national symbol. For me anything other than the Cyprus and the EU flag have no place at least in goverment buildings.
However the Turkish flag on pentadaktilos is far more provocative imo than the greek flags on the poles.



I totally agree, I was just thinking before, that if the Republic of Cyprus actually decided not to fly the Greek Flag, and only the European Union Flag and Cypriot Flag, and actually got their own National Anthem (according to my friend... they use the Greek one), and in general, got rid of everything that made it seem like they are part of Greece, and actually emphasised the fact they they are Cyprus, an independant nation... would that help?

I don't really think that asking all Turkish troops to leave (as I saw many times on random signs on the highway... "Our only request is for all Turkish troops to leave Cyprus") is a big deal and can be done if Cyprus (the Republic of) can show that they are Cypriot first and foremost.

I do feel like, though, the government DOES give somewhat of an effort to reach out to Turkish Cypriots... for example everything official is still in both Greek and Turkish (things like money... and even the warnings on cigarettes), I know it's not enough, but its a start. I also noticed that Hala Sultan in Larnaka is being completely restored on the inside, and another mosque in the city is also being restored... one that my friend said was once a church... and the government could have easily made it a church, but instead is choosing the option of restoring it as a mosque. Like I said, I know it's not nearly enough... but it's something.

When I was in Cyprus I was only in the south and never went to the northern area, so if the situation up there is different or similar, let me know, I'd like to hear it.
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Postby erolz » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:08 pm

Adam3777 wrote: I do feel like, though, the government DOES give somewhat of an effort to reach out to Turkish Cypriots... for example everything official is still in both Greek and Turkish (things like money... and even the warnings on cigarettes),


Is that an expression of a genuine GC desire to include the TC community and respect it's wishes or is it a polticaly motivated decisions designed to support the the position that the RoC government today represents both GC and TC communites in Cyprus? For a TC it is not hard to consider such actions as being more motivted by the later than the former unfortunately.
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Postby Main_Source » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:13 pm

You just cant please some people.
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Postby erolz » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:38 pm

Main_Source wrote:You just cant please some people.


Was the opening of the border a genuine gesture of goodwill on the part of TC leadership, or was it a political decisions to serve TC interests? Can you be pleased as you expect TC to be pleased?
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:24 pm

Adam3777 wrote:

I also noticed that Hala Sultan in Larnaka is being completely restored on the inside, and another mosque in the city is also being restored... one that my friend said was once a church... .


Mr Adam3777

I think you will find that the restoration of these buildings in the South is closely associated with the restoration work being done at Apostolos Andreas Monastery in the North.

They were subject to a Bi-Communal project funded by UNOPS, which when these projects started was primarily funded by The United States of America.
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Postby Murtaza » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:28 pm

cannedmoose wrote:
Murtaza wrote:do you have pictures of that flags?

I made my army duty at Gökçeada(Imroz), and we have a flag like this too. (pictured at a mountain)

I think It is not related with cyprus.


Here they are Murtaza... this is what people in Lefkosia wake up to see most mornings...

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Canned good pictures for me, but I think Turkish flag should not be there.
For TRNC flag, It is not my job to decide.
But you can see that picture a lot of place at Turkey.

hmm, If I were greek, I want to destroy that mountain for these flags. :)
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Postby Murtaza » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:32 pm

magikthrill wrote:
Murtaza wrote:do you have pictures of that flags?

I made my army duty at Gökçeada(Imroz), and we have a flag like this too. (pictured at a mountain)

I think It is not related with cyprus.


gokceada had also been touchy ground between greeks and turks in the beginning of the prevoius century and despite its large greek speaking population it was given in the end to Turkey with the treaty of Lausanne.


I know, but there is not any problem with greece for this lands. As I know, greeks come for some type of holiday related with drinking but not have much knowledge. Army duty at Turkey is not something you wish.
But you can saw that picture most place in turkey. is this true or false, another point. But It should not be seen in cyprus, Cyprus is not turkey land.
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Postby Main_Source » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:40 pm

Was the opening of the border a genuine gesture of goodwill on the part of TC leadership, or was it a political decisions to serve TC interests? Can you be pleased as you expect TC to be pleased?


Goodwill? lol...29 years too late for goodwill.
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Postby erolz » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:34 am

Main_Source wrote:
Was the opening of the border a genuine gesture of goodwill on the part of TC leadership, or was it a political decisions to serve TC interests? Can you be pleased as you expect TC to be pleased?


Goodwill? lol...29 years too late for goodwill.


"You just cant please some people."

Sound familure at all?
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