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[wyoming cowboy]

Turkey only intervened on orders from the USA, do you really think that a Nato country has the power to wage war without the consent of the USA especially during that time when the height of the cold war was taking precedence over everything? Therefore now under the European Union umbrella, Cyprus has to abide by its laws...both the majority of Greeks and minority of Turks have to abide....The Rule of Law is paramount...and in the interest of both communities on Cyprus...Any attempt to give the minority as much say so as the majority is nonsense and unacceptable it violates European and civil democratic ideals.....

i know you dream for partition of our island Mr H but this hs as much chances fo happening as the whole island will re unite with greece the partitonists and the non solution gc people..

Never say never, you are tempting fate...you thought Turkey would never intervene either.

[wyoming cowboy]

Tempting fate................The tables are turned nowadays, we dont have Makarios trying to pull Cyprus toward the nonaligned corner and being in bed with Mao of china or Kruschev of the USSR or even Castro of Cuba, that was the problem in a nutshell and thats why Turkey was ordered to invade...Cyprus was on the outskirts of the western alliance due to the strong communist base in Cyprus...Today the tables are turned and its Turkey that is on the outskirts with its strong Islamic fundamental base, therefore the powers usa. uk, eu, nato, are going to assure themselves that Turkey will remain....and obedient......and they will use Cyprus again for that purpose...

[Pyrpolizer]

thats not unification.. two states is two states no matter how you put it.. personally i would never agree to such a plan anymore then you would agree to uniting all of cyprus with greece..

but you waNT it the other way round the turks become the masters and tell us what to do even on our side of the island and then in the north we have no say..

at least put an acceptable plan to the table with EQUAL rights

The 2 "states" will be missing too much to be real independent states. It will be a Federal Republic of CYPRUS therefore one state.

I have been unable to get this through to Palio.

He thinks the 2 states of the Federation would be the same as the 2 states of partition.

That’s because he thinks ahead, something you’re not doing but should be.

Yeah lots of people in here look ahead, some others even dream France will come and liberate us!

[Pyrpolizer]

After a few years of being on this forum and exposed to raw GC opinions, plus the obvious mistrust hate anger revenge seeking dangers gushing from both sides, wouldnt agreed division be the best option as anything else will be forced therefore disasterous. Lets say we can agree the % land the TCs had back land woud that entice the Gcs to accept the TRNC?

Deniz we need a good photo with violins please.

[boulio]

The best you can hope for is 73/27 split. Anything else will not be acceptable and will end up as the it is.

honestly how do you get 27% the t/c are entitled to?

[Oracle]

thats not unification.. two states is two states no matter how you put it.. personally i would never agree to such a plan anymore then you would agree to uniting all of cyprus with greece..

but you waNT it the other way round the turks become the masters and tell us what to do even on our side of the island and then in the north we have no say..

at least put an acceptable plan to the table with EQUAL rights

The 2 "states" will be missing too much to be real independent states. It will be a Federal Republic of CYPRUS therefore one state.

I have been unable to get this through to Palio.

He thinks the 2 states of the Federation would be the same as the 2 states of partition.

That’s because he thinks ahead, something you’re not doing but should be.

Yeah lots of people in here look ahead, some others even dream France will come and liberate us!

Liberté, égalité, fraternité ...

[YFred]

thats not unification.. two states is two states no matter how you put it.. personally i would never agree to such a plan anymore then you would agree to uniting all of cyprus with greece..

but you waNT it the other way round the turks become the masters and tell us what to do even on our side of the island and then in the north we have no say..

at least put an acceptable plan to the table with EQUAL rights

The 2 "states" will be missing too much to be real independent states. It will be a Federal Republic of CYPRUS therefore one state.

I have been unable to get this through to Palio.

He thinks the 2 states of the Federation would be the same as the 2 states of partition.

That’s because he thinks ahead, something you’re not doing but should be.

Yeah lots of people in here look ahead, some others even dream France will come and liberate us!

Liberté, égalité, fraternité ...

Please do take it in to account that the frogs tend to wear their T-Shirts backwards so it looks like they are attacking.

[Viewpoint]

i dont think the g/c would accept anyhting more than a 80/20 split would the t/c go for that?

The best you can hope for is 73/27 split. Anything else will not be acceptable and will end up as the it is.

I think anywhere between 25-29% the Tcs would go for it, this figure has always been on the table there must some reasoning for it, I think it has something to do with making an allowance for Gcs who wish to live with us. This in the face of what we all experience not only on this forum but in the bottleneck that is being experienced right now proves that we would both be rid of each other once and for all and get on with our lives as good neighbours and best all around. The GCs would be free of us forever and giving us any rights and we would not have to fear them dominating us or brushing us to one side, sounds perfect, be interesting to hear serious GC comments facing up the fact that we will never find a solution flexible enough to get both sides to commit.

[paliometoxo]

i am sure ir ead somewhere if there was a partition it would have to be 20% no more or less

[Viewpoint]

i am sure ir ead somewhere if there was a partition it would have to be 20% no more or less

Im sure this figure could easily be raised to accomadate Gc land and state registered land dont you feel it would be a clean break for everyone as we obviously will never be able to find a solution that will make both side happy to commit 100%, you dont want us and we dont want you why force it?