Talisker wrote:Paphitis wrote:As we all know, Greece has certain obligations to the RoC which have not been met.
On the one hand, Greece's stance, does allow the RoC to challenge the integrity of the Treaty of Alliance and Guarantee, since both Greece and the UK have not even attempted to maintain the RoC's territorial integrity in the face of continued occupation. This is a good thing, and perhaps Greece may be correct to have such a stance.
On the other hand, Greece's inaction in Cyprus, leaves the RoC in a very vulnerable situation, especially since the RoC has little leverage apart from the EU and the impending legal actions of thousands of Cy refugees around the the world at the ECHR, and ECJ.
Should Greece deploy thousands of troops, aircraft and ships in Cyprus in order to maintain a balance of power on the island, and as a defense against Turkish conquest over the entire island? Will this give the RoC more leverage in the negotiations, since Greece is effectively now able to project power upon Turkey's southern flank and further afield into the Middle East?
I am of the opinion that such an action by Greece would be extremely troublesome for Turkey, and may be the catalyst for some compromise by them in order to remove the Greek troops from their southern flank. But on the other hand, Turkey may use this as an opportunity to resurrect the defunct Treaty of Alliance and Guarantee....
Should Greece project its military power in the Middle East for the benefit of the RoC, or is Greece's current stance more beneficial as we attempt to negotiate with an occupying power which wants it all or nothing?
Greece is one of the largest military powers in Europe. Its military is armed with some of the most advance equipment money can buy! For such a well armed and militarily powerful country, it seems that Greece is too scared of its own shadow and has not only left Cyprus out to dry, but is also politically incapable of dealing with Turkish recalcitrance in the Aegean by not extending its territorial seas out to 12nms.
I would have thought, that Greece should be obligated to station 40,000 to 50,000 troops on Cyprus, on the ready for a "Freedom or Death" (ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΙΑ Η ΘΑΝΑΤΟΣ), quest for liberation by marching upon Kyrenia alongside 90,000 odd CNG regulars and reservists, under HAF air cover, whilst HN submarines are blockading Turkish supply lines, especially since Greece is quite responsible for the current situation.
WTF Paphitis?You're taking the piss surely........
I can just see the Greek Prime Minister explaining this strategy to his EU counterparts.........
And absolutely the right time for Europe to be dragged into another war by a bankrupt nation to help out one which is already winning its own war, by judicial means, against the invader.
Well if Greece could actually stand on its own 2 feet, then it wouldn't care what the EU has to say. Unfortunately, Greece is just one unproductive nation full off unproductive leeches which have no affinity to the nation state and with their number one priority being tax evasion, thus bringing the country down to its knees. There are only 2 million decent patriotic Greeks (less than 20% of population) and the rest are just trash looking out for their own keep only. They are corrupt and almost bankrupt, because their society is also ethically and morally corrupt. This explains my line of "resurrectionist" threads within the General Chat and the anti GO threads. Because "Greek" culture and the ""Greek" mentality is unproductive and selfish, in total contrast to the glorious Ancient Greek predecessors who had an entirely different outlook altogether.
One thing I like about the UK, is that every now and then, they tell the EU to take a hike, and Brits are at times Euro sceptics.
We have 800,000 "Greek" trash in Australia as well, and if the Australian population was mostly "Greek", Australia too would be ethically bankrupt and the whole economy would cave in. Many years ago, a prominent Union official, when responding to allegations of racism in Australia from Greek production workers, told them that "Australia is not interested in the first generation. To us you are not Australian. We are interested in your kids, because they will become Australian and they will actually fit in and be productive citizens"!!!!
Someone has said many times that the EU will one day form a multinational force from member states and that it will be left with no choice but to liberate Cyprus. I never took this seriously at all, and have always believed that the EU's military arm is NATO and the PfP, as most NATO alliance members are also EU states.
Greece needs to take responsibility for what it did to Cyprus. It doused Cyprus with fuel and then threw a lit match, and Cyprus has been burning ever since. As we all know, Greece has 1,100 troops on Cyprus. It can either increase them to 40,000 by unilaterally using the Treaty of Guarantee as the catalyst, and only if their purpose is to our benefit, and face the invader they themselves bought to Cyprus, or they can withdraw the 1,100 ELDYK troops in Cyprus and we will go it all alone, as usual.
Someone said that Greece is a liability. I understand what they mean. We don't need Greek trash in Cyprus anymore!
We all know Greece needs the EU economically, because Greece is a hopeless country. We also know that Cyprus needs the EU politically(?), but if that were not the case, then I would be the first to tell the EU to get stuffed!
You used to be a Hellenophile!
