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Yeah your right probably...well he already played for Juve. Is Fener a rich club though...because with all due respect, some of these players first motivation for going to Fenerbaxe must be the money offered to them.

Yes, you are right. But as more famous players come and we get some success in european cups hopefully, they may prefer Fenerbahce. Unfortunately, this is a long-time deal and also related to the turkish leagues reputation.

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Even if Fener went out and one the European Cup...I still think the main motivation would be the money offered to them, as the Turkish league is not one of the top leagues in Europe. It like Porto won the European Cup...but I dont think top players would want to go there because a Portugese team won the the top European trophy.

Fener is doing the right thing bringing in the best talent it can...but I think most of these players would not have the same motivation as earlier in there careers, when they wanted to prove something in a top league.

What are the home grown Turkish players like though?...because Turkey had a good team in the last World Cup and had some good individual players, then they just didnt do anything after that. I think they had better players than Greece did when they won the Euro..the difference being though that the Greece manager did a fantastic job with some not so skillful players. I cant stand it when I hear people say Greece were lucky, becaue they beat the three best teams in the tournament, although I think the Turkish players in the last World Cup were better individually than the Greece team who won the Euro.

[brother]

Sourcey the Greek team that won the Eoro played their hearts out and deserved to win, so lets not take away their glory, they are a good team.

[demetriou_74]

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Greece played their hearts out and deserved to win I know...infact I would liken them to George Graham's Arsenal of the early 90's.

Infact, I think some of the jelous English football pundits go over the top to say how boring Greece was...they were direct but I remember them putting some good passes together at times...they just played to their strengths.

What I am saying though is that I remember that Turkey team in the last world cup had some good skillful players, who a few went on to sign for some of the top clubs in Europe...after that though...just seemed like Turkey went down hill. Maybe they shouldnt have sacked Fatih Terim, seemed like a very good manager and did well with Gala a few years ago.

As for Greece though, well maybe the more foreigners like Rivaldo they sign...the more Greek young kids will try to emulate that style of player.

[Fred@Codies]

From what I hear, Appiah is a real star.

He plays in the Ghana NT alongside Essien in midfield, and he runs the show, forcing Essien to play second fiddle.

With Chelsea reportedly willing to part with £30m+ for Essien, the signing of Appiah looks a shrewd bit of business.

Expect big things. Juventus was just the wrong club for him

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Even if Fener went out and one the European Cup...I still think the main motivation would be the money offered to them, as the Turkish league is not one of the top leagues in Europe. It like Porto won the European Cup...but I dont think top players would want to go there because a Portugese team won the the top European trophy.

The turkish league has more potential than portugese league in my opinion. For example, one team lost to Valencia(that year's UEFA champion) in extension time, in the quarter final 2 years ago.

Fener is doing the right thing bringing in the best talent it can...but I think most of these players would not have the same motivation as earlier in there careers, when they wanted to prove something in a top league.

The key point here is being in the champions league, I believe. Also Fenerbahce has an unbelivable fan group, which can be a good motivator(and stressful at some times). But you are partly right.

What are the home grown Turkish players like though?...because Turkey had a good team in the last World Cup and had some good individual players, then they just didnt do anything after that. I think they had better players than Greece did when they won the Euro..the difference being though that the Greece manager did a fantastic job with some not so skillful players. I cant stand it when I hear people say Greece were lucky, becaue they beat the three best teams in the tournament, although I think the Turkish players in the last World Cup were better individually than the Greece team who won the Euro.

Turkish league always produces talented players but they are ... not complete in professional and technical sense. They had a very good generation who went to 96, 00 Euro finals,galatasaray won the UEFA cup, Turkey became 3rd in the World in 02(a bit of luck there). Now, this generation is off and they couldnt do a nice transition. Now there is another generation with a bunch of young and taleneted players, we will see if they can make a nice cake with the ingredients. It does not seem very optimistic at the moment.

I agree that Greece wasn't lucky(you always need a bit of luck in football anyway) but struggling with their hearts. But forgive me, it was the most boring football I have ever watched. In the long term, if everone plays like Greece does, there wont be any football fans 20 years later.

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From what I hear, Appiah is a real star.

He plays in the Ghana NT alongside Essien in midfield, and he runs the show, forcing Essien to play second fiddle.

With Chelsea reportedly willing to part with £30m+ for Essien, the signing of Appiah looks a shrewd bit of business.

Expect big things. Juventus was just the wrong club for him

Cheers, mate

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It wasnt as boring as people like to make out...I remember them passing triangles around some of the portugese players...its just they dont have any player that can dazzle with skills.

I think people were trying to find lots of negatives about Greece's game because they were jelous that such an underdog won...the English commentators are the most jelous and bias (on the border of racist) television / radio presenters I have heard.

Besides, nobody really complained about Germany's World Cup winning side...and they certainly werent that exciting...its because of them we had the 'pass-back' rule introduced.

What would you prefer as an underdog...play fancy football and be defensively niave to go out at the first round...or play to your strengths and win the title.

[trabzonspor]

fenerbahçe = rigging
fenerbahçe = forger
fenerbahçe = hakem ile kazanan
fenerbahçe = raider