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Postby Malapapa » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:29 pm

boomerang wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:This is my firm conviction:
Ban came because the Anglo Americans together with Ankara forced him to come.
Helping Talat was just a veil. "Elections" are more that 2 months away...
He came IMMEDIATELY after the Orams case to deliver a message...

I hope more than anyone that I am wrong!


OK, Pyrpo. And the message was?


Some sort of blackmail, If I were Christofias "me ta moutra os ton kolo" I would be able to tell you.


As long as Christofias and Talat, as is their stated common conviction, "find a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots" what is there to worry about?

This to me is a huge climbdown from Talat (post Orams) on the property issue. He has acknowledged that Cypriots have a legitimate right to their property and that this must be given full consideration.




I agree with pyro on this on this one...property is not the issue here...they haven't even started to negotiate it yet...the most relevant for turkey here is governance and how to govern the whole island...legally...turkey would be happy to give all the land back as long as they govern...don't make any mistake about it...i don't even think turkey wants partition...cyprus is turkish is their motto...

while drunk with joy of a win we missed the actual point...

turkey has a long plan and looking a far while we think the eu is gonna be our saviour, forgetting the eu' is US pet puppet...anyway we should have VETO turkey from the start if we were serious about it...

another point is who gave turkey the green light for joining the eu?...the eu or the us?...this alone tells us who the master is and who the puppet is...


Christofias looked unhappy because he was unwell. Now whether this was triggered by some dastardly ultimatum, delivered to him by Ki-moon on behalf of the Anglo-Americans, on how Cyprus was to be gifted to Turkey in time for Doomsday 2012, we'll have to leave to the conspiracy theorists. Where is insan when you need him?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE6112KV.htm

Cypriot President Demetris Christofias was discharged from hospital on Tuesday after a short stay probably triggered by exhaustion, doctors said.

Christofias, 64, went to hospital on his physician's advice after feeling unwell on Tuesday afternoon. Tests carried out gave Christofias the all-clear, medics said.
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Postby boomerang » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:33 pm

YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:This is my firm conviction:
Ban came because the Anglo Americans together with Ankara forced him to come.
Helping Talat was just a veil. "Elections" are more that 2 months away...
He came IMMEDIATELY after the Orams case to deliver a message...

I hope more than anyone that I am wrong!


OK, Pyrpo. And the message was?


Some sort of blackmail, If I were Christofias "me ta moutra os ton kolo" I would be able to tell you.


As long as Christofias and Talat, as is their stated common conviction, "find a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots" what is there to worry about?

This to me is a huge climbdown from Talat (post Orams) on the property issue. He has acknowledged that Cypriots have a legitimate right to their property and that this must be given full consideration.




I agree with pyro on this on this one...property is not the issue here...they haven't even started to negotiate it yet...the most relevant for turkey here is governance and how to govern the whole island...legally...turkey would be happy to give all the land back as long as they govern...don't make any mistake about it...i don't even think turkey wants partition...cyprus is turkish is their motto...

while drunk with joy of a win we missed the actual point...

turkey has a long plan and looking a far while we think the eu is gonna be our saviour, forgetting the eu' is US pet puppet...anyway we should have VETO turkey from the start if we were serious about it...

another point is who gave turkey the green light for joining the eu?...the eu or the us?...this alone tells us who the master is and who the puppet is...

Boy is you gettin there, but you art though fcukin slow, what?


if you stopped for a minute being the knucklehead that you are you will see that we will both have lots to lose...
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Postby boomerang » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:35 pm

Malapapa wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:This is my firm conviction:
Ban came because the Anglo Americans together with Ankara forced him to come.
Helping Talat was just a veil. "Elections" are more that 2 months away...
He came IMMEDIATELY after the Orams case to deliver a message...

I hope more than anyone that I am wrong!


OK, Pyrpo. And the message was?


Some sort of blackmail, If I were Christofias "me ta moutra os ton kolo" I would be able to tell you.


As long as Christofias and Talat, as is their stated common conviction, "find a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots" what is there to worry about?

This to me is a huge climbdown from Talat (post Orams) on the property issue. He has acknowledged that Cypriots have a legitimate right to their property and that this must be given full consideration.




I agree with pyro on this on this one...property is not the issue here...they haven't even started to negotiate it yet...the most relevant for turkey here is governance and how to govern the whole island...legally...turkey would be happy to give all the land back as long as they govern...don't make any mistake about it...i don't even think turkey wants partition...cyprus is turkish is their motto...

while drunk with joy of a win we missed the actual point...

turkey has a long plan and looking a far while we think the eu is gonna be our saviour, forgetting the eu' is US pet puppet...anyway we should have VETO turkey from the start if we were serious about it...

another point is who gave turkey the green light for joining the eu?...the eu or the us?...this alone tells us who the master is and who the puppet is...


Christofias looked unhappy because he was unwell. Now whether this was triggered by some dastardly ultimatum, delivered to him by Ki-moon on behalf of the Anglo-Americans, on how Cyprus was to be gifted to Turkey in time for Doomsday 2012, we'll have to leave to the conspiracy theorists. Where is insan when you need him?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE6112KV.htm

Cypriot President Demetris Christofias was discharged from hospital on Tuesday after a short stay probably triggered by exhaustion, doctors said.

Christofias, 64, went to hospital on his physician's advice after feeling unwell on Tuesday afternoon. Tests carried out gave Christofias the all-clear, medics said.


actions speak louder than words...downer is an idiot but one thing he very well knows as a career diplomat is which side of his toast is buttered... :wink:
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Postby YFred » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:51 pm

boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:This is my firm conviction:
Ban came because the Anglo Americans together with Ankara forced him to come.
Helping Talat was just a veil. "Elections" are more that 2 months away...
He came IMMEDIATELY after the Orams case to deliver a message...

I hope more than anyone that I am wrong!


OK, Pyrpo. And the message was?


Some sort of blackmail, If I were Christofias "me ta moutra os ton kolo" I would be able to tell you.


As long as Christofias and Talat, as is their stated common conviction, "find a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots" what is there to worry about?

This to me is a huge climbdown from Talat (post Orams) on the property issue. He has acknowledged that Cypriots have a legitimate right to their property and that this must be given full consideration.




I agree with pyro on this on this one...property is not the issue here...they haven't even started to negotiate it yet...the most relevant for turkey here is governance and how to govern the whole island...legally...turkey would be happy to give all the land back as long as they govern...don't make any mistake about it...i don't even think turkey wants partition...cyprus is turkish is their motto...

while drunk with joy of a win we missed the actual point...

turkey has a long plan and looking a far while we think the eu is gonna be our saviour, forgetting the eu' is US pet puppet...anyway we should have VETO turkey from the start if we were serious about it...

another point is who gave turkey the green light for joining the eu?...the eu or the us?...this alone tells us who the master is and who the puppet is...

Boy is you gettin there, but you art though fcukin slow, what?


if you stopped for a minute being the knucklehead that you are you will see that we will both have lots to lose...

I see, you are coming to your senses. I have no more to lose. First I lost some in 63 and then more in 74. Welcome to the club, perhaps you can stop sleep walking right into the kadastrophia and help the TCs not only to help themselves but you too, although why they would want to help the likes of you I find difficult to understand, but they do.
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Postby boomerang » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:18 pm

right over you head huh?...which part of both us have heaps to lose you didn't understand?...only if talat and the tcs could see this I would say we are 50% home...a big if though...
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Postby DT. » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:43 pm

Talat had his chance to shine and grab the opportunity to launch himself as the man that is equal to the task of President Christofias and solve this problem. Instead, he stood in front of Ban Ki Moon and spoke to him about the 60"s :roll:
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Postby YFred » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:48 pm

boomerang wrote:right over you head huh?...which part of both us have heaps to lose you didn't understand?...only if talat and the tcs could see this I would say we are 50% home...a big if though...

Talat has seen the light, the question is has Muhtar X, I suspect not. He is looking in the distance and transfixed on to the headlights coming towards him and thinks he can just out stare it.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:08 am

DT. wrote:Talat had his chance to shine and grab the opportunity to launch himself as the man that is equal to the task of President Christofias and solve this problem. Instead, he stood in front of Ban Ki Moon and spoke to him about the 60"s :roll:


He's been reading too much of "BirKibrisli's Dairy" :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:07 am

Malapapa wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:This is my firm conviction:
Ban came because the Anglo Americans together with Ankara forced him to come.
Helping Talat was just a veil. "Elections" are more that 2 months away...
He came IMMEDIATELY after the Orams case to deliver a message...

I hope more than anyone that I am wrong!


OK, Pyrpo. And the message was?


I think Pyro is right...It was mainly pressure from the British which brought on the Ban visit...The message is clear : Cyprus problem will be solved at the negotiation table,not in courts...
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:14 am

BirKibrisli wrote:I think Pyro is right...It was mainly pressure from the British which brought on the Ban visit...The message is clear : Cyprus problem will be solved at the negotiation table,not in courts...

Rubbish! If anything the courts have proven that on an individual basis justice CAN be served, but at the country/international level the UN Security Council is corrupt to the bone and justice will NOT be served as the last 35 years have proven!

Press on with the court cases!
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