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I think it's quite lame to infer such a thing from the statement, plus you're assuming Turkey actually wants recognition of the north. Recognition is a threat to Turkey's stronghold, why would they want it?

Vaughanwilliams, this young fellow is about a third your age yet has three times your IQ... what gives?

[vaughanwilliams]

You're so uncouth!

The term "Excellency" was used (both times) to address them as leaders of their communities. It's not a term of office.

You can read something into the fact he addressed Christofias FIRST, though

Excellency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excellency

Alphabetical (Christfias before Talat) plus he was in Larnaca when he said it. He wouldn't be that rude!

I don't think most normal people address others in alphabetical order!
They do when they are reading prepared scripts.
Your Wiki source proves what I was saying. It's not a (one) designated form of address. For instance, it is also used generally for diplomacy!

So Mr. Talat is a diplomat now? Of which State? The TRNC?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomat

No look here VW, you come on to this forum, disturb the hornets nest and you leave us toface the consequences. If you are going to do that, you must stick to help out. Muhtar X will need some help after the anouncement today. Anyone know what it is.

Sorry, YFred. The pub's open. Talk later.

[vaughanwilliams]

I think it's quite lame to infer such a thing from the statement, plus you're assuming Turkey actually wants recognition of the north. Recognition is a threat to Turkey's stronghold, why would they want it?

Vaughanwilliams, this young fellow is about a third your age yet has three times your IQ... what gives?

Bet my knob's longer than his, though.

[YFred]

You're so uncouth!

The term "Excellency" was used (both times) to address them as leaders of their communities. It's not a term of office.

You can read something into the fact he addressed Christofias FIRST, though

Excellency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excellency

Alphabetical (Christfias before Talat) plus he was in Larnaca when he said it. He wouldn't be that rude!

I don't think most normal people address others in alphabetical order!
They do when they are reading prepared scripts.
Your Wiki source proves what I was saying. It's not a (one) designated form of address. For instance, it is also used generally for diplomacy!

So Mr. Talat is a diplomat now? Of which State? The TRNC?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomat

No look here VW, you come on to this forum, disturb the hornets nest and you leave us toface the consequences. If you are going to do that, you must stick to help out. Muhtar X will need some help after the anouncement today. Anyone know what it is.

Sorry, YFred. The pub's open. Talk later.

How did I know you were going to do that. At least wait till the anouncement. See the fire works.

[vaughanwilliams]

You're so uncouth!

The term "Excellency" was used (both times) to address them as leaders of their communities. It's not a term of office.

You can read something into the fact he addressed Christofias FIRST, though

Excellency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excellency

Alphabetical (Christfias before Talat) plus he was in Larnaca when he said it. He wouldn't be that rude!

I don't think most normal people address others in alphabetical order!
They do when they are reading prepared scripts.
Your Wiki source proves what I was saying. It's not a (one) designated form of address. For instance, it is also used generally for diplomacy!

So Mr. Talat is a diplomat now? Of which State? The TRNC?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomat

No look here VW, you come on to this forum, disturb the hornets nest and you leave us toface the consequences. If you are going to do that, you must stick to help out. Muhtar X will need some help after the anouncement today. Anyone know what it is.

Sorry, YFred. The pub's open. Talk later.

How did I know you were going to do that. At least wait till the anouncement. See the fire works.

We got Sky News in the boozer.

[YFred]

I think it's quite lame to infer such a thing from the statement, plus you're assuming Turkey actually wants recognition of the north. Recognition is a threat to Turkey's stronghold, why would they want it?

Vaughanwilliams, this young fellow is about a third your age yet has three times your IQ... what gives?

Bet my knob's longer than his, though.

They don't call him Hope07 for nothing

[Oracle]

You're so uncouth!

The term "Excellency" was used (both times) to address them as leaders of their communities. It's not a term of office.

You can read something into the fact he addressed Christofias FIRST, though

Excellency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excellency

Alphabetical (Christfias before Talat) plus he was in Larnaca when he said it. He wouldn't be that rude!

I don't think most normal people address others in alphabetical order!
They do when they are reading prepared scripts.
Your Wiki source proves what I was saying. It's not a (one) designated form of address. For instance, it is also used generally for diplomacy!

So Mr. Talat is a diplomat now? Of which State? The TRNC?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomat

No speech writer would opt for "alphabetical" order, you dork. Do you think they get paid thousands for rhetoric in order to resort to nursery school habits?

And, I never said Talat was being referred to as a diplomatic, but that the formal address to him as a leader of a community was done with diplomacy!

[DT.]

I'd have a word with Mr. Moon if I was you guys.

Take a look at:

http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/defaul ... te&he=.com

Where in one sentence - "...their Excellencies Mr (Demetris) Christofias and Mr (Mehmet Ali)Talat ..." - elevates Mr. Talat to a President (Excellency) and then in the same breath levels them both with a plain Mr.

Was this creeping recognition, a Freudian slip or just an old fashioned poke in the eye?

go here http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28410

The UN's answered your question,

[Pyrpolizer]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a poke in the eye....

Didn't anyone read the hysteria from the GC side when they heard of his visit? One politician even went as far as saying "if he's coming to pressure our side as well, then the president should not accept this process. If he's coming to pressure the other side, he's welcome."

As in 2004 and EU admission, GCs have been given another incentive NOT to take the talks seriously with the Orams judgement. They're playing a similar game this time by dragging the talks till Talat loses elections, so they can shift the whole blame on the TCs and sue us into oblivion...

Why else were they so defensive over Bans visit?!? So much so that they were talking some bs about "we will not for impression sakes play this PR game of Mr Downer or anyone elses."

Why are they afraid of even showing a good impression?

You are totally driven by Turkish Propaganda T_C.

There was tiny progress in the negotiations on the issue of power sharing ONLY. That was the only issue on which the GC side had something to give, in fact she gave it all and still the Turkish side wants more.

There has been absolutely no agreement on any of the difficult issues. The initial intention of the local UN representative was not just to invite the UNSG but to have a fiest here forcing Christofias to sign an interim agreement as if the Cyprus problem was solved half way!! That would serve 2 purposes.

a)Bind the GC side to whatever she already gave without getting anything in return. Typical method followed by Denktash in the past.
b)Save face for Talat and help him win the elections.

Point (a) was rejected, so the UNSG was once again ridiculed by those who oblidged him to come to just serve point (b) to whatever near zero degree it has served it.

It was a fiasco!

[Viewpoint]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a poke in the eye....

Didn't anyone read the hysteria from the GC side when they heard of his visit? One politician even went as far as saying "if he's coming to pressure our side as well, then the president should not accept this process. If he's coming to pressure the other side, he's welcome."

As in 2004 and EU admission, GCs have been given another incentive NOT to take the talks seriously with the Orams judgement. They're playing a similar game this time by dragging the talks till Talat loses elections, so they can shift the whole blame on the TCs and sue us into oblivion...

Why else were they so defensive over Bans visit?!? So much so that they were talking some bs about "we will not for impression sakes play this PR game of Mr Downer or anyone elses."

Why are they afraid of even showing a good impression?

You are totally driven by Turkish Propaganda T_C.

There was tiny progress in the negotiations on the issue of power sharing ONLY. That was the only issue on which the GC side had something to give, in fact she gave it all and still the Turkish side wants more.

There has been absolutely no agreement on any of the difficult issues. The initial intention of the local UN representative was not just to invite the UNSG but to have a fiest here forcing Christofias to sign an interim agreement as if the Cyprus problem was solved half way!! That would serve 2 purposes.

a)Bind the GC side to whatever she already gave without getting anything in return. Typical method followed by Denktash in the past.
b)Save face for Talat and help him win the elections.

Point (a) was rejected, so the UNSG was once again ridiculed by those who oblidged him to come to just serve point (b) to whatever near zero degree it has served it.

It was a fiasco!

If you think that the secretary general would come to Cyprus to help President Talat win the next election then you are being very naive nearing stupid..this was a visit to apply pressure on the side which is intransigent.