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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:06 am

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Why your "authorities" did not allow ANY other media to cover Moon's visit in the occupied except Bayrak?


As far as i know only correspondents for Bayrak and CyBC from South Cyprus were allowed to cover the UN Chief’s visit to the buffer zone as part of the strict security measures taken for the visit.

Other correspondents were among the civilians. They were taking their own pictures . All the correspondents are allowed in UN quarters. Which they were applied before the UN and got permission from UN and from UN security forces. May u have seen the life transmission they were allowed to ask only one question each and leaders are answer their question.


No, No my question was WHY in THE OCCUPIED only Bayrak was allowed to take coverage?
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Postby halil » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:08 am

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denizaksulu wrote:Halil, is it possible to write down the proper titles of the gentlemen here?

In your own words please :lol:( President Talat and Greek Cypriot Leader Christofias). Or will they still give you the sack? :lol:


very clear Denizaksulu , he is not TC's president .... in my view he is only leader of the Greek Cypriots our only elected president is Talat and i will not change it ..... to just satisfy others will . how we see him in north.



Thank you Halil BEY. :lol:

Just making sure you follow the official line :lol:

I get hiccups everytime I see that. :lol:


It's your problem Deniz Bey.....

Till solution of the Cyprus problem u can have your hiccups. u better used it.
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:10 am

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section ... m=2&y=2010

A generally sound analysis, so much more informed than the average Brit reportage...

Editorial: Cyprus talks

It is hard to share even UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s guarded optimism over the latest talks on the reunion of Cyprus. This is a tragedy that has seen so many real opportunities for settlement slip away because one side or the other, but mostly it must be said, the Turkish Cypriot side, failed to react wisely when the solution was within their grasp.

The finest opportunity occurred in the run up to the accession of the Greek part of Cyprus to the EU in 2004. Encouraged by Ankara, anxious to boost mainland Turkey’s own chances of joining the EU, the Turkish Cypriot negotiators were finally prepared to make the extensive concessions, not least on the return of property seized from Greeks after the 1974 invasion.

It was these demands against which long-time Turkish-Cypriot Premier Rauf Denktash had always set his head. But with Denktash gone and his community anxious for a settlement, there was an overwhelming vote in favor of a deal. However, the Greek part of the island, in part because of assurances from Brussels that their EU membership would go ahead anyway, decided to vote no.

And there it has stood ever since. Two years ago the UN initiated fresh negotiations, including confidence-building measures between the two communities. It is these talks, which Ban now hopes are bearing some fruit. However even he admits that reaching a final deal will require “courage, flexibility and vision as well as a spirit of compromise.”

So far the issue of governance is the only one on which a deal has been agreed. The question of property return — on both sides of the divide — appears to be as far off as ever. This bitter confrontation has endured for 36 years. Many Turkish-Cypriots long ago quit the island and now live and work in Europe or the United States.

Indeed, so alarming did depopulation become in the late 1980s that Ankara started giving generous grants to encourage farmers from the mainland to take up abandoned fields. The outlook for these families would seem particularly grim, since their claims on their properties are extremely weak.

Indeed some in the Greek community would rather wait for as long as it takes so that their claims for restitution of and compensation for property lost can be handled in the EU courts. A UN-brokered settlement of the property issue would very probably be open to legal challenge unless the Greek population of the island could be persuaded to vote for a binding agreement. It must be said that such ratification now seems unlikely.

The local Greeks are enjoying the benefits of EU membership. Their standard of living, always higher than on the Turkish side of the divide, is improving.

Their financial system is benefiting from foreign inflows, not least from Russia. A new generation is taking charge, which never knew the island when it was united. Sadly there is no longer any urgent need for the major compromises from the Greek Cypriots that would bring about a settlement.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:32 am

halil wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:Halil, is it possible to write down the proper titles of the gentlemen here?

In your own words please :lol:( President Talat and Greek Cypriot Leader Christofias). Or will they still give you the sack? :lol:


very clear Denizaksulu , he is not TC's president .... in my view he is only leader of the Greek Cypriots our only elected president is Talat and i will not change it ..... to just satisfy others will . how we see him in north.



Thank you Halil BEY. :lol:

Just making sure you follow the official line :lol:

I get hiccups everytime I see that. :lol:


It's your problem Deniz Bey.....

Till solution of the Cyprus problem u can have your hiccups. u better used it.



It is not a problem Halil; just an anomaly. It makes me laugh. :cry:

Have a GOOD DAY Halil Pasha :lol:
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Postby halil » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:54 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Halil,

Why your "authorities" did not allow ANY other media to cover Moon's visit in the occupied except Bayrak?


As far as i know only correspondents for Bayrak and CyBC from South Cyprus were allowed to cover the UN Chief’s visit to the buffer zone as part of the strict security measures taken for the visit.

Other correspondents were among the civilians. They were taking their own pictures . All the correspondents are allowed in UN quarters. Which they were applied before the UN and got permission from UN and from UN security forces. May u have seen the life transmission they were allowed to ask only one question each and leaders are answer their question.


No, No my question was WHY in THE OCCUPIED only Bayrak was allowed to take coverage?


All press was in the garden of the TRNC President palace. One of my friend from CyBC call me from the palace to ask something. May be people are not allowed in during the lunch . something happenes in south as well not all the press are allowing in . only they can have pictures when they comes out . Like Christofias dinner with Ban only GC press was in .
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:27 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Halil,

Why your "authorities" did not allow ANY other media to cover Moon's visit in the occupied except Bayrak?


As far as i know only correspondents for Bayrak and CyBC from South Cyprus were allowed to cover the UN Chief’s visit to the buffer zone as part of the strict security measures taken for the visit.

Other correspondents were among the civilians. They were taking their own pictures . All the correspondents are allowed in UN quarters. Which they were applied before the UN and got permission from UN and from UN security forces. May u have seen the life transmission they were allowed to ask only one question each and leaders are answer their question.


No, No my question was WHY in THE OCCUPIED only Bayrak was allowed to take coverage?


Maybe that bit of it was not official. They were just visiting an illegally occupied territory, after all. Maybe security could not be guaranteed for the free press with so many fascist Turkish troops around.
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Postby halil » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:13 pm

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called upon the leaders of the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities on Monday to proceed quickly and with "more courage" to a solution of the Cyprus problem .

"The negotiations are not easy but the time is ripe for a solution," Ban said at a joint press conference after day-long meetings in Nicosia with Cyprus President Demetris Christofias, who is also the Greek Cypriot leader , and Mehmet Ali Talat, the Turkish Cypriot leader.

The Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot leaders have been engaged in negotiations on a Cyprus settlement for the past 17 months, reporting significant progress on the thorny issue of governance and power sharing between their communities.

"I am here to show my personal support for the negotiations, which belong to the Cypriots," Ban said. "It is important to give more push to the process."

He called for "vision and flexibility" and added that he was given assurances by the two leaders that they will work for a comprehensive settlement.

Both Christofias and Talat said they were committed to continue their negotiations and find a solution in the shortest time possible, despite an upcoming vote to elect a "president" of the breakaway state in the northern Turkish part of Cyprus.

The United Nations and diplomats in Nicosia are concerned that the vote may lead to a deadlock of the negotiations if right wing nationalist Turkish Cypriot politician Dervis Eroglu replaces moderate Talat as leader of the Turkish Cypriots.

"The elections are important but the negotiations are more important. We must continue negotiating and I am ready to shoulder my responsibilities," said Talat, echoing a call by Turkey for the talks to continue despite the upcoming election.

Ban hailed "significant progress" achieved during intensive talks aimed at reuniting Cyprus, which has been divided into ethnically separate regions since Turkey militarily intervened and occupied the north in 1974 following to a coup by Greek army officers.

The Republic of Cyprus, which only effectively controls the Greek south, entered the European Union in 2004. It holds the key to Turkey's accession to the EU, because it can block further negotiations in reaction to Ankara's posture on a Cyprus solution.

Christofias made an oblique reference to Turkey's role when asked to comment on the negotiating process. He said there have been convergences on the governance issue but there are still important aspects which have not yet been discussed, such as international guarantees and tens of thousands of Turkish mainland settlers in the Turkish Cypriot north.

Britain, Turkey and Greece are guarantors of the Cyprus Republic established in 1960, when the island became independent from Britain.

Ban read a joint statement by the two leaders committing themselves to negotiations on all aspects of the Cyprus problem.

"Good convergence has already been achieved in some Chapters. For the rest, we are determined to work hard to achieve the desired progress," the statement said.

It added that the Cyprus problem has remained unresolved for too long and that time is not on the side of a settlement.

"We express our confidence that with good will and determination, we can achieve a solution in the shortest possible time," said the two leaders.

The statement came at the end of separate meetings Ban had with Christofias and Talat and a joint session with the two.

The UN chief crossed through the buffer zone controlled by United Nations peace keepers in the morning for a meeting and lunch with Mehmet Ali Talat in the Turkish Cypriot sector of the divided capital, Nicosia.

The meeting was held in the office of Mehmet Ali Talat, in a building designated as "presidential palace". This soured the climate, provoking protests by President Christofias and the entire Greek Cypriot political leadership.

Well informed government sources said Christofias expressed deep dissatisfaction to Ban Ki-Moon when they met later, at what he described as a violation of agreed protocol arrangements.

Greek Cypriot parties deplored the meeting at Talat's office as an act denoting recognition of the breakaway state entity in the occupied part of Cyprus, contrary to UN resolutions.

Some of the parties boycotted a reception hosted by the United Nations for leaders of both communities this evening.

Alexander Downer, Ban's advisor on Cyprus made a statement on behalf of the Secretary-General saying that the meeting at Talat's office had no political undertones.

"The United Nations recognize only the Republic of Cyprus," Downer said.

He added that Ban met with Talat in his capacity of the leader as the Turkish Cypriot community, in the context of the negotiations for a solution to the Cyprus problem.

"The venue of the meeting has no political significance," Downer underlined.

Despite the bickering, which underlines the difficulties ahead in the road to a Cyprus solution, Ban was received enthusiastically by crowds of Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

They gathered on both sides of the dividing line to watch him unveil a plaque commemorating the beginning of restoration work on old and crumbling buildings.

They waved banners and chanted slogans exalting Ban to help the reunification process.

The buildings stand on both sides of a narrow street joining the two sectors of the old part of the capital, encircled by a mediaeval Venetian wall.

Ban said this part of the city, serving as a crossing point between the two sectors of the city, "is a symbol of the will of the community leaders to overcome whatever problems in their way to solution of the Cyprus problem and build a common future".

Restoration work on the buildings is funded by the European Commission in a gesture of EU support to reunification efforts.

Source: Xinhua

http://english1.peopledaily.com.cn/9000 ... 85052.html
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:00 pm

Ok final question halil:

Why all this joy? Is it because

a) We are anyway near in having an agreement? or
b) A famous person came in Cyprus? or
c) You smelled recognition?
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