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Postby Malapapa » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:58 pm

halil wrote:a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.


Perfect.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:12 pm

The rejectionists hailed abuse at Christofias this afternoon. They called him a traitor and a few similar names. One could see some interesting people among the crowd, members of the parties that co govern with AKEL. Varnavas of EDEK, Koulias of DIKO to mention a couple. These opportunists have a huge problem with Christofias on the most important issue but they will not badge from government. This is a peculiar place we find ourselves living in.
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Postby YFred » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:13 pm

Malapapa wrote:
halil wrote:a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.


Perfect.

Are you not being rather selective tonight. Take the Greek filtered glasses off please.
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Postby growuptcs » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:19 pm

YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
halil wrote:a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.


Perfect.

Are you not being rather selective tonight. Take the Greek filtered glasses off please.


No space cadet suits allowed at the negotiating table. Glasses are ok.
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Postby halil » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:25 pm

Ticking clock

from Hurriyet:


For his part, Talat said that clock was ticking against a solution to the problem, and called for an immediate settlement. “I am ready to take responsibility,” Talat declared.

Talat also warned about “increasing disappointment” among Turkish and Greek Cypriots that could make it harder and more complex to reach a settlement. “That's why we need an immediate solution. I am sure that your support will continue.”

Talat and Christofias have been engaged in intensified talks to hold stepped up discussions on governance and power sharing. “We still have problems although talks have brought about significant reconciliation on several topics over the past one-and-a-half years,” Talat said. “However, our recent intensified talks have been fruitful. I hope we can reach an agreement on continuation of these talks.”

Talat also called on the international community to put an end to the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot state, which he said was inhuman. “It is simply unacceptable. We expect more from the international community,” he said.

Ban’s predecessor Kofi Annan traveled to Cyprus eight years ago and urged the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities at the time to seize a "historic opportunity."

But the Greek Cypriots later rejected Annan's reunification blueprint in a referendum, ensuring Cyprus joined the European Union still divided in 2004 despite a Turkish Cypriot referendum approving Annan's plan.

The latest U.N.-led effort has also struggled to produce tangible results since it was launched amid much optimism in September 2008. Christofias and Talat have yet to secure any breakthrough in sluggish negotiations.

Ban's visit comes after two rounds of intensified negotiations between the two leaders that were meant to accelerate the reunification of Cyprus. The talks will need to be suspended soon, however, to allow Talat to campaign for elections called for April 18 in Turkish Cyprus. Talat is trailing in the polls to hard-liner Prime Minister Derviş Eroğlu. A sense that the talks haven't gained traction has fueled fears Talat could lose the election to Eroğlu.

“We are faced with an ironic situation where we all agree there are two leaders fully committed and working hard to continue negotiations, but there is nothing to show for it in the eye of public opinion,” said Turkish Cypriot lawyer and analyst Emine Erk.
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Postby YFred » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:26 pm

growuptcs wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
halil wrote:a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.


Perfect.

Are you not being rather selective tonight. Take the Greek filtered glasses off please.


No space cadet suits allowed at the negotiating table. Glasses are ok.

I think you'll find that it's the bash patriots who have hijacked the space suits, on their way to Uranus.
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Postby boulio » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:29 pm

Ticking clock

from Hurriyet:

For his part, Talat said that clock was ticking against a solution to the problem, and called for an immediate settlement. “I am ready to take responsibility,” Talat declared.

Talat also warned about “increasing disappointment” among Turkish and Greek Cypriots that could make it harder and more complex to reach a settlement. “That's why we need an immediate solution. I am sure that your support will continue.”

Talat and Christofias have been engaged in intensified talks to hold stepped up discussions on governance and power sharing. “We still have problems although talks have brought about significant reconciliation on several topics over the past one-and-a-half years,” Talat said. “However, our recent intensified talks have been fruitful. I hope we can reach an agreement on continuation of these talks.”

Talat also called on the international community to put an end to the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot state, which he said was inhuman. “It is simply unacceptable. We expect more from the international community,” he said.

Ban’s predecessor Kofi Annan traveled to Cyprus eight years ago and urged the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities at the time to seize a "historic opportunity."

But the Greek Cypriots later rejected Annan's reunification blueprint in a referendum, ensuring Cyprus joined the European Union still divided in 2004 despite a Turkish Cypriot referendum approving Annan's plan.

The latest U.N.-led effort has also struggled to produce tangible results since it was launched amid much optimism in September 2008. Christofias and Talat have yet to secure any breakthrough in sluggish negotiations.

Ban's visit comes after two rounds of intensified negotiations between the two leaders that were meant to accelerate the reunification of Cyprus. The talks will need to be suspended soon, however, to allow Talat to campaign for elections called for April 18 in Turkish Cyprus. Talat is trailing in the polls to hard-liner Prime Minister Derviş Eroğlu. A sense that the talks haven't gained traction has fueled fears Talat could lose the election to Eroğlu.

“We are faced with an ironic situation where we all agree there are two leaders fully committed and working hard to continue negotiations, but there is nothing to show for it in the eye of public opinion,” said Turkish Cypriot lawyer and analyst Emine Erk.


Maybe turkey and the t/c shouldn't make wasteful proposals in the form of a confederation(which the paper you are quoting even stated)and truly offer proposals that look to reunify the island under a federal model.
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Postby growuptcs » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:37 pm

YFred wrote:
growuptcs wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
halil wrote:a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.


Perfect.

Are you not being rather selective tonight. Take the Greek filtered glasses off please.


No space cadet suits allowed at the negotiating table. Glasses are ok.

I think you'll find that it's the bash patriots who have hijacked the space suits, on their way to Uranus.


Whoever hijacked them, the negotiating process has to have concrete results on how you will leave. By air or sea, same way you came in illegally.
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:41 pm

YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
halil wrote:a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.


Perfect.

Are you not being rather selective tonight. Take the Greek filtered glasses off please.


Concerns are good too, in relation to aspects such as security, ie. Turkey's continued intervention rights is a legitimate concern.

But legitimate rights are aspects of a solution Talat/Turkey were not taking seriously but now have to - post-Orams.
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:42 pm

Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
halil wrote:a solution to the Cyprus problem which would take into full consideration the legitimate rights and concerns of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.


Perfect.

Are you not being rather selective tonight. Take the Greek filtered glasses off please.


Concerns are good too, in relation to aspects such as security, ie. Turkey's continued intervention rights is a legitimate concern.

But legitimate rights are aspects of a solution Talat/Turkey were not taking seriously but now have to - post-Orams.


BTW, I do not own filtered glasses from Greece.
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