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[vaughanwilliams]

Turkey is pushing ahead with her annexation policy only this time is the entire island that she is after.
A nation of 70 million people all of whom would have the right to reside in Cyprus , how long does anyone think it will be before the G/Cs become the minority !

It's for this reason that turkish accession to the EU should (and I expect will) be vetoed by small countries hosting historic turkish population remnants (Greece, RoC, Bulgaria at least). In the extreme case, expulsion from the EU is preferable to granting residency rights to every turkish citizen.

I'm still having a job believing this, as once all TR citizens have acccess to the "new" Cy, surely that would mean a free stepping-stone to the rest of the EU?

[Epiktitos]

Turkey is pushing ahead with her annexation policy only this time is the entire island that she is after.
A nation of 70 million people all of whom would have the right to reside in Cyprus , how long does anyone think it will be before the G/Cs become the minority !

It's for this reason that turkish accession to the EU should (and I expect will) be vetoed by small countries hosting historic turkish population remnants (Greece, RoC, Bulgaria at least). In the extreme case, expulsion from the EU is preferable to granting residency rights to every turkish citizen.

I'm still having a job believing this, as once all TR citizens have acccess to the "new" Cy, surely that would mean a free stepping-stone to the rest of the EU?

You fail to comprehend that it's illegal to trade in stolen goods too, so don't strain your brain too much.

In any case, there will never be a "new" RoC, and turkish citizens will never be granted residency in the RoC.

[vaughanwilliams]

Turkey is pushing ahead with her annexation policy only this time is the entire island that she is after.
A nation of 70 million people all of whom would have the right to reside in Cyprus , how long does anyone think it will be before the G/Cs become the minority !

It's for this reason that turkish accession to the EU should (and I expect will) be vetoed by small countries hosting historic turkish population remnants (Greece, RoC, Bulgaria at least). In the extreme case, expulsion from the EU is preferable to granting residency rights to every turkish citizen.

I'm still having a job believing this, as once all TR citizens have acccess to the "new" Cy, surely that would mean a free stepping-stone to the rest of the EU?

You fail to comprehend that it's illegal to trade in stolen goods too, so don't strain your brain too much.

In any case, there will never be a "new" RoC, and turkish citizens will never be granted residency in the RoC.

Here we go again.
I was agreeing with you there for a minute.
Bye.

[Gabira]

Christofias needs shooting, he is selling us out, perhaps he should also offer his and his missis arse to the turks just to keep them happy.

The brave Turkish Army loves a bit of Greek arse

You say no compromise

Bloody hell, the TC's gave you the Orams property back in good faith. Surely the GC's can give something back in return

[DT.]

Christofias needs shooting, he is selling us out, perhaps he should also offer his and his missis arse to the turks just to keep them happy.

The brave Turkish Army loves a bit of Greek arse

You say no compromise

Bloody hell, the TC's gave you the Orams property back in good faith. Surely the GC's can give something back in return

ANything to comment on the thread material?

And considering the amount of arse you've donated to the Turkish army I wouldn't throw rocks in glass houses.

[Malapapa]

Another compromise Turkey is offering is to drop the word "Northern" from the name of the republic.

[Pyrpolizer]

The thread material is just demands DT. It doesn't mean Christofias accepted them.
Christofias said many times he is disappointed from Talat bringing in confederal demands. We will not accept such demands.

Let's not start an OXI campaign like idiots without having the complete picture in front of us.
What I am disappointed of so far is that they ve been discussing the matter of power sharing for so long and even on that we still have a great chasm. How about the other important issues? Imo the Turkish side wants it all and they will not give anything in the end.
Here are my predictions:

a)Property issue: The will insist the current user has the first say
b)Settlers:They will insist they all stay.
c)Turkish Nationals:They will insist they get EU citizen rights in Cyprus, like the Greek nationals.
d)Territory: They will start from 30%. No return of Morfou.
e)Right of Return:they will insist on limiting it to 10% as per Anan Plan.
f)Derrogations:They will throw in a ton of demands for derrogations from EU aquis.

Just forget it. Imo if Eroglu is elected we should take the chance to get rid of everything we agreed so far.BBF and all this bullshit. Just forget there will be an agreed solution EVER and just stay clean from any obligations and any agreements.
We should STAY CLEAN waiting for the day Turkey will be ready to join the EU or get her special relations agreement.

[Oracle]

Turkey is pushing ahead with her annexation policy only this time is the entire island that she is after.
A nation of 70 million people all of whom would have the right to reside in Cyprus , how long does anyone think it will be before the G/Cs become the minority !

I thought you didn't believe in TCs and GCs ... just Cypriots.

[Pyrpolizer]

Besides no matter how sad that would be the number of TCs will be reduced in the next decade to the point we will not have any substantial TC population to talk with any longer. After the Orams case there will be absolutely nothing to sustain an "economy" in the occupied. That would turn the Cyprus problem into a problem if INVASION/OCCUPATION/SETTLEMENT between Cyprus and Turkey. It won't be a problem between the 2 communities anymore.
Either we will lose it all or Tuirkey will lose it all. Remains to be seen...

[vaughanwilliams]

Besides no matter how sad that would be the number of TCs will be reduced in the next decade to the point we will not have any substantial TC population to talk with any longer. After the Orams case there will be absolutely nothing to sustain an "economy" in the occupied. That would turn the Cyprus problem into a problem if INVASION/OCCUPATION/SETTLEMENT between Cyprus and Turkey. It won't be a problem between the 2 communities anymore.
Either we will lose it all or Tuirkey will lose it all. Remains to be seen...

As more time goes by and more TCs leave and the situation gets more entrenched the worse it will become. Eventually you will be negotiating with Turks 'cos all the TCs will have left. I know you'll say you are negotiating with TR anyway, but any TC influence that exists now will be gone eventually.