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A plan is afoot that’s worse than Annan

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby kurupetos » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:58 pm

DTA wrote:
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DTA wrote:
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DTA wrote:I have a couple of questions?

do you guys think that the church in south is against any reasonably attainable solution?

and if so why?

There is nothing to believe. The church has made it's position clear. Anybody who votes yes to peace is destined for hell. hat other information do you need to come to the correct conclusion.


Just wanted to see what the GC thought?

What does the church have to lose?

Hellenising the whole island. They want it all.


Is this still their position?


No, it's YFred's position. :wink:
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Postby YFred » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:59 pm

DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:I have a couple of questions?

do you guys think that the church in south is against any reasonably attainable solution?

and if so why?

There is nothing to believe. The church has made it's position clear. Anybody who votes yes to peace is destined for hell. hat other information do you need to come to the correct conclusion.


Just wanted to see what the GC thought?

What does the church have to lose?

Hellenising the whole island. They want it all.


Is this still their position?

Oracle can confirm, where is the old cow when you need her?
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Re: A plan is afoot that’s worse than Annan

Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:07 pm

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yialousa1971 wrote:A plan is afoot that’s worse than Annan

Yeah, he's building a monstrous church where the old Ayia Paraskevi is opposite the Hilton! :roll:


What? I thought Qatar was building some kind of holiday complex there.


That's on the East. Ayia Paraskevi is on the south side. "opposite" was wrong term :wink:


Oh, right!
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Postby DTA » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:13 pm

kurupetos wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:I have a couple of questions?

do you guys think that the church in south is against any reasonably attainable solution?

and if so why?

There is nothing to believe. The church has made it's position clear. Anybody who votes yes to peace is destined for hell. hat other information do you need to come to the correct conclusion.


Just wanted to see what the GC thought?

What does the church have to lose?

Hellenising the whole island. They want it all.


Is this still their position?


No, it's YFred's position. :wink:


What do you think their position is?
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Postby DT. » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:43 pm

DTA wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:I have a couple of questions?

do you guys think that the church in south is against any reasonably attainable solution?

and if so why?

There is nothing to believe. The church has made it's position clear. Anybody who votes yes to peace is destined for hell. hat other information do you need to come to the correct conclusion.


Just wanted to see what the GC thought?

What does the church have to lose?

Hellenising the whole island. They want it all.


Is this still their position?


No, it's YFred's position. :wink:


What do you think their position is?


The church believes the biggest compromise has already been made by accepting the BBF. Anything further is equal to ethnic suicide.

There is logic there. WHen the islands majority has already accepted the BBF's restrictions (especially those of Bi-zonality) then no one should expect the GC's to show anymore compromise than what's already been given.

2 "ethnically" clean zones is racist and is one of the proposals the church is against, as is rotating presidency and any settlers (recognised by the UN as a war crime) remaining.

So far we've already accepted rotating presidency, already accepted the 2 ethnic zones and have already accepted 50,000 settlers remaining. We now have only to accept turkey's demand for split FIR and for citizenship granted to any turkish citizen that wishes it and Bob's your uncle, we got a solution.

All pretty meaningless, as in Jerry Maguire, "they lost most of us at rotating presidency."
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Postby DT. » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:44 pm

DT. wrote:
DTA wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:I have a couple of questions?

do you guys think that the church in south is against any reasonably attainable solution?

and if so why?

There is nothing to believe. The church has made it's position clear. Anybody who votes yes to peace is destined for hell. hat other information do you need to come to the correct conclusion.


Just wanted to see what the GC thought?

What does the church have to lose?

Hellenising the whole island. They want it all.


Is this still their position?


No, it's YFred's position. :wink:


What do you think their position is?


The church believes the biggest compromise has already been made by accepting the BBF. Anything further is equal to ethnic suicide.

There is logic there. WHen the islands majority has already accepted the BBF's restrictions (especially those of Bi-zonality) then no one should expect the GC's to show anymore compromise than what's already been given.

2 "ethnically" clean zones is racist and is one of the proposals the church is against, as is rotating presidency and any settlers (recognised by the UN as a war crime) remaining.

So far we've already accepted rotating presidency, already accepted the 2 ethnic zones and have already accepted 50,000 settlers remaining. We now have only to accept turkey's demand for split FIR and for citizenship granted to any turkish citizen that wishes it and Bob's your uncle, we got a solution.

All pretty meaningless, as in Jerry Maguire, "they lost most of us at rotating presidency."


p.s not a huge fan of the church but can't see me disagreeing with any of their points.
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Postby DTA » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:54 pm

DT. wrote:
DT. wrote:
DTA wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:I have a couple of questions?

do you guys think that the church in south is against any reasonably attainable solution?

and if so why?

There is nothing to believe. The church has made it's position clear. Anybody who votes yes to peace is destined for hell. hat other information do you need to come to the correct conclusion.


Just wanted to see what the GC thought?

What does the church have to lose?

Hellenising the whole island. They want it all.


Is this still their position?


No, it's YFred's position. :wink:


What do you think their position is?


The church believes the biggest compromise has already been made by accepting the BBF. Anything further is equal to ethnic suicide.

There is logic there. WHen the islands majority has already accepted the BBF's restrictions (especially those of Bi-zonality) then no one should expect the GC's to show anymore compromise than what's already been given.

2 "ethnically" clean zones is racist and is one of the proposals the church is against, as is rotating presidency and any settlers (recognised by the UN as a war crime) remaining.

So far we've already accepted rotating presidency, already accepted the 2 ethnic zones and have already accepted 50,000 settlers remaining. We now have only to accept turkey's demand for split FIR and for citizenship granted to any turkish citizen that wishes it and Bob's your uncle, we got a solution.

All pretty meaningless, as in Jerry Maguire, "they lost most of us at rotating presidency."


p.s not a huge fan of the church but can't see me disagreeing with any of their points.


When you say 'You have accepted" what do you mean? when did you accept this? Who accepted this?

How does the Church know what is being talked about and agreed in negotiations?
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Postby DT. » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:15 pm

DTA wrote:
DT. wrote:
DT. wrote:
DTA wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:
YFred wrote:
DTA wrote:I have a couple of questions?

do you guys think that the church in south is against any reasonably attainable solution?

and if so why?

There is nothing to believe. The church has made it's position clear. Anybody who votes yes to peace is destined for hell. hat other information do you need to come to the correct conclusion.


Just wanted to see what the GC thought?

What does the church have to lose?

Hellenising the whole island. They want it all.


Is this still their position?


No, it's YFred's position. :wink:


What do you think their position is?


The church believes the biggest compromise has already been made by accepting the BBF. Anything further is equal to ethnic suicide.

There is logic there. WHen the islands majority has already accepted the BBF's restrictions (especially those of Bi-zonality) then no one should expect the GC's to show anymore compromise than what's already been given.

2 "ethnically" clean zones is racist and is one of the proposals the church is against, as is rotating presidency and any settlers (recognised by the UN as a war crime) remaining.

So far we've already accepted rotating presidency, already accepted the 2 ethnic zones and have already accepted 50,000 settlers remaining. We now have only to accept turkey's demand for split FIR and for citizenship granted to any turkish citizen that wishes it and Bob's your uncle, we got a solution.

All pretty meaningless, as in Jerry Maguire, "they lost most of us at rotating presidency."


p.s not a huge fan of the church but can't see me disagreeing with any of their points.


When you say 'You have accepted" what do you mean? when did you accept this? Who accepted this?

How does the Church know what is being talked about and agreed in negotiations?


President Christofias has not only accepted but in fact proposed himself rotating presidency and 50,000 settlers remaining as a gesture of good will at the start of the talks.

Talat responded by flying to turkey and coming back with a demand for seprate FIR's. :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:18 pm

Arent the details of these negotiations supposed to be secret, who are you do you attend these meetings?
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Postby DT. » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:21 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Arent the details of these negotiations supposed to be secret, who are you do you attend these meetings?


The fact that these 2 offers were made by the President was made public here by himself a while ago.

The fact that turkey's couter proposal contained the terms of separate FIR's and citizenship of Cyprus granted to any Turkish citizen were leaked by the TC press and a few political parties over here after it was given to them by the President.

I read VP. Can you?
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