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[YFred]

yes you make a good point, but as we have learned this is what happens when turkey does not agree with rules set on them especially when turkey so badly wants eu and has to comply with rules set. to withdraw the troops..

i dont see how they are helping having troops here. even you yourself said you are friends with gcs and there is no fear. but thats the excuse turkey gives for having them here. them being scared which to me sounds like excuses

Palio, until the peace agreement is signed there cannot be any withdrawals of any kind, except in DT's house to control the GC population, which I gather it's practiced regularly on account the the mrs wears the trousers and he wears the skirts with pom poms. Well that's what GR said anyway.

[Viewpoint]

yes you make a good point, but as we have learned this is what happens when turkey does not agree with rules set on them especially when turkey so badly wants eu and has to comply with rules set. to withdraw the troops..

i dont see how they are helping having troops here. even you yourself said you are friends with gcs and there is no fear. but thats the excuse turkey gives for having them here. them being scared which to me sounds like excuses

Palio thats what you are fed and distortions do occur, Turkey and the TCs are your biggest enemy do you think anything positive will be written about them by your press?

Why do you want us to throw away our security? although I do not feel threatened by my GC friends I do feel threatened when in the south as you never know what you are going to face with the people you meet as they are influence negative by not only the politicians but the Church which is very active in turning us in to demons, I would never feel safe living in the south just as I am sure you would not feel safe living in the north.

Plus never forget the TA act as a deterrent I would hate to think of what would happen if they were not here the GC National guard could do whatever they wish and you can bet 100% it would not be very healthy for TCs.

[paliometoxo]

turkey is my enemy not tcs..

security? this is not 30 years ago when there was so much violence. the troops are just as effective from 75km away then right here on our island.

you never know thats why we have to be positive and not spread hate and learn to live together. imo there is no need for the troops to be here. no real need.

[Oracle]

Plus never forget the TA act as a deterrent I would hate to think of what would happen if they were not here the GC National guard could do whatever they wish and you can bet 100% it would not be very healthy for TCs.

Since when did the National Guard kill thousands of TCs like the Turkish Army did to the GCs?

[YFred]

turkey is my enemy not tcs..

security? this is not 30 years ago when there was so much violence. the troops are just as effective from 75km away then right here on our island.

you never know thats why we have to be positive and not spread hate and learn to live together. imo there is no need for the troops to be here. no real need.

But Palio, that is not what Muhtar X is asking for. He wants the guarantee to be removed so if the GCs attack, Turkey will have no right to defend the TCs. 99% of the TCs will not accept that. The Turkish army will go as soon as the peace agreement is signed.

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paliometoxo

turkey is my enemy not tcs..

You and other GCs claim we are one and the same therefore your enemy.

security? this is not 30 years ago when there was so much violence. the troops are just as effective from 75km away then right here on our island.

If they go you do not want them to provide security so they will never be able to come back, they are the reason why there has been no violence between the 2 communities the GCs are not stupid enough to try anything with the TA here.

you never know thats why we have to be positive and not spread hate and learn to live together. imo there is no need for the troops to be here. no real need.

But I dont think that way, as imho they act as a deterrent and are the reason we have enjoyed living peacefully for 36 years, remove that safety for TCs and you will never know what will happen are you willing to put everyone at that risk. They will only leave if we agree a comprehensive solution.

[paliometoxo]

turkey is my enemy not tcs..

security? this is not 30 years ago when there was so much violence. the troops are just as effective from 75km away then right here on our island.

you never know thats why we have to be positive and not spread hate and learn to live together. imo there is no need for the troops to be here. no real need.

But Palio, that is not what Muhtar X is asking for. He wants the guarantee to be removed so if the GCs attack, Turkey will have no right to defend the TCs. 99% of the TCs will not accept that. The Turkish army will go as soon as the peace agreement is signed.

what gives them any more right when they are here on the island and ignoring laws telling them to leave?

and the chance of gcs trying to attack is... 0

and i hope it is soon we sign a deal we both accept .. but not like the bannana plan where they wanted some troops permanently on the island like turkey will probably try have in the deal

[paliometoxo]

paliometoxo

turkey is my enemy not tcs..

You and other GCs claim we are one and the same therefore your enemy.

security? this is not 30 years ago when there was so much violence. the troops are just as effective from 75km away then right here on our island.

If they go you do not want them to provide security so they will never be able to come back, they are the reason why there has been no violence between the 2 communities the GCs are not stupid enough to try anything with the TA here.

you never know thats why we have to be positive and not spread hate and learn to live together. imo there is no need for the troops to be here. no real need.

But I dont think that way, as imho they act as a deterrent and are the reason we have enjoyed living peacefully for 36 years, remove that safety for TCs and you will never know what will happen are you willing to put everyone at that risk. They will only leave if we agree a comprehensive solution.

so you believe once turkish army leavs gcs will run and murder any turk they see?..

i doubt that very much.

even the un and eu tells them to leave and trusts that all will be ok. its more about show so they can pretend they need two states i think.

[Viewpoint]

turkey is my enemy not tcs..

security? this is not 30 years ago when there was so much violence. the troops are just as effective from 75km away then right here on our island.

you never know thats why we have to be positive and not spread hate and learn to live together. imo there is no need for the troops to be here. no real need.

But Palio, that is not what Muhtar X is asking for. He wants the guarantee to be removed so if the GCs attack, Turkey will have no right to defend the TCs. 99% of the TCs will not accept that. The Turkish army will go as soon as the peace agreement is signed.

what gives them any more right when they are here on the island and ignoring laws telling them to leave?

and the chance of gcs trying to attack is... 0

and i hope it is soon we sign a deal we both accept .. but not like the bannana plan where they wanted some troops permanently on the island like turkey will probably try have in the deal

How about getting rid of your own army and 100.000 armed reservists at the same time?

[DT.]

turkey is my enemy not tcs..

security? this is not 30 years ago when there was so much violence. the troops are just as effective from 75km away then right here on our island.

you never know thats why we have to be positive and not spread hate and learn to live together. imo there is no need for the troops to be here. no real need.

But Palio, that is not what Muhtar X is asking for. He wants the guarantee to be removed so if the GCs attack, Turkey will have no right to defend the TCs. 99% of the TCs will not accept that. The Turkish army will go as soon as the peace agreement is signed.

what gives them any more right when they are here on the island and ignoring laws telling them to leave?

and the chance of gcs trying to attack is... 0

and i hope it is soon we sign a deal we both accept .. but not like the bannana plan where they wanted some troops permanently on the island like turkey will probably try have in the deal

How about getting rid of your own army and 100.000 armed reservists at the same time?

Lets do it simultaneously. We'd agree to it on the spot. Has been offered many times VP. Whats your excuse now?