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[-mikkie2-]

Mr Williams,

Do stop clutching at straws. TC's have been slowly reclaiming their land. Some TC's have even gone back to abandoned villages and gained grants from the RoC to restore old properties.

The point is there is a legal framework that the TC's can resort to whereas the GC's have no legal remedy in the north and what there is, is discriminatory and designed to disenfrachise the property owners from what is rightfully theirs.

The TC authorities are digging their own grave slowly but surely regarding properties. The legal system will eventually catch up with them in the end.

[vaughanwilliams]

Mr Williams,

Do stop clutching at straws. TC's have been slowly reclaiming their land. Some TC's have even gone back to abandoned villages and gained grants from the RoC to restore old properties.
But they can't get their property back until there is a settlement to the Cyprus Problem, as the law stands at the moment.
The point is there is a legal framework that the TC's can resort to whereas the GC's have no legal remedy in the north and what there is, is discriminatory and designed to disenfrachise the property owners from what is rightfully theirs.

The TC authorities are digging their own grave slowly but surely regarding properties. The legal system will eventually catch up with them in the end.

[bill cobbett]

yes, which is why the RoC is changing the law so that ex-pat TC's can get their property back when they want.
Any TC, not just ex-pat. You also need to get rid of the "living in RoC for 6 months while your claim is processed" condition, while you're at it.
The 'trnc' will have to do the same.

I think individuals may need to challenge the RoC legally on this "six months condition", to see whether it has a case for sticking to this stipulation.

Of course, meanwhile individuals are busy challenging Turkey, and its subordinate regime in the north, for depriving them of their property rights, not just for a six month period but indefinitely. The $400 billion class action lawsuit in the US should be particularly interesting as well as all the ECHR judgements.

Yes this 6 month residency rule is well past its sell-by date. Had uses in the past, but now that so many, many tissies have RoC ID cards and passports, the matter of proving identity is much,much easier.

It should be as easy for tissies to enjoy their lands as any other EU citizens.

If the Roc doesn't act on this soon, then some concerned tissies should haul the RoC up before the ECHR on this now past-it rule.

(Shame that Sofi person took the RoC's Harem Money and we lost the chance to see the ECHR's opinion on this)

The impression I got from the GC side in the Sofi case was that they would be addressing the 6 months issue. OK, knowing how long it takes for things to happen here (regardless of whether TCs are involved) it could take 10 years to change!

As far as I know the RoC Attorney General's office had to sign a declaration of intent to alter this arrangement as part of the Sofi out of court settlement.

Thanks for that bit of info Tim.

Wouldn't like any ambiguities in treatment Expat Tissies v Tissies.

[YFred]

yes, which is why the RoC is changing the law so that ex-pat TC's can get their property back when they want.
Any TC, not just ex-pat. You also need to get rid of the "living in RoC for 6 months while your claim is processed" condition, while you're at it.
The 'trnc' will have to do the same.

I think individuals may need to challenge the RoC legally on this "six months condition", to see whether it has a case for sticking to this stipulation.

Of course, meanwhile individuals are busy challenging Turkey, and its subordinate regime in the north, for depriving them of their property rights, not just for a six month period but indefinitely. The $400 billion class action lawsuit in the US should be particularly interesting as well as all the ECHR judgements.

Yes this 6 month residency rule is well past its sell-by date. Had uses in the past, but now that so many, many tissies have RoC ID cards and passports, the matter of proving identity is much,much easier.

It should be as easy for tissies to enjoy their lands as any other EU citizens.

If the Roc doesn't act on this soon, then some concerned tissies should haul the RoC up before the ECHR on this now past-it rule.

(Shame that Sofi person took the RoC's Harem Money and we lost the chance to see the ECHR's opinion on this)

The impression I got from the GC side in the Sofi case was that they would be addressing the 6 months issue. OK, knowing how long it takes for things to happen here (regardless of whether TCs are involved) it could take 10 years to change!

As far as I know the RoC Attorney General's office had to sign a declaration of intent to alter this arrangement as part of the Sofi out of court settlement.

Thanks for that bit of info Tim.

Wouldn't like any ambiguities in treatment Expat Tissies v Tissies.

Well, at least one of my concerns is being addressed fix the justice system too and perhaps we can all begin to feel Cypriot again.

[bill cobbett]

yes, which is why the RoC is changing the law so that ex-pat TC's can get their property back when they want.
Any TC, not just ex-pat. You also need to get rid of the "living in RoC for 6 months while your claim is processed" condition, while you're at it.
The 'trnc' will have to do the same.

I think individuals may need to challenge the RoC legally on this "six months condition", to see whether it has a case for sticking to this stipulation.

Of course, meanwhile individuals are busy challenging Turkey, and its subordinate regime in the north, for depriving them of their property rights, not just for a six month period but indefinitely. The $400 billion class action lawsuit in the US should be particularly interesting as well as all the ECHR judgements.

Yes this 6 month residency rule is well past its sell-by date. Had uses in the past, but now that so many, many tissies have RoC ID cards and passports, the matter of proving identity is much,much easier.

It should be as easy for tissies to enjoy their lands as any other EU citizens.

If the Roc doesn't act on this soon, then some concerned tissies should haul the RoC up before the ECHR on this now past-it rule.

(Shame that Sofi person took the RoC's Harem Money and we lost the chance to see the ECHR's opinion on this)

The impression I got from the GC side in the Sofi case was that they would be addressing the 6 months issue. OK, knowing how long it takes for things to happen here (regardless of whether TCs are involved) it could take 10 years to change!

As far as I know the RoC Attorney General's office had to sign a declaration of intent to alter this arrangement as part of the Sofi out of court settlement.

Thanks for that bit of info Tim.

Wouldn't like any ambiguities in treatment Expat Tissies v Tissies.

Well, at least one of my concerns is being addressed fix the justice system too and perhaps we can all begin to feel Cypriot again.

Well Freddie, looks like some of us are scratching your back, question is how and when will you personally start scratching ours ?????

[YFred]

yes, which is why the RoC is changing the law so that ex-pat TC's can get their property back when they want.
Any TC, not just ex-pat. You also need to get rid of the "living in RoC for 6 months while your claim is processed" condition, while you're at it.
The 'trnc' will have to do the same.

I think individuals may need to challenge the RoC legally on this "six months condition", to see whether it has a case for sticking to this stipulation.

Of course, meanwhile individuals are busy challenging Turkey, and its subordinate regime in the north, for depriving them of their property rights, not just for a six month period but indefinitely. The $400 billion class action lawsuit in the US should be particularly interesting as well as all the ECHR judgements.

Yes this 6 month residency rule is well past its sell-by date. Had uses in the past, but now that so many, many tissies have RoC ID cards and passports, the matter of proving identity is much,much easier.

It should be as easy for tissies to enjoy their lands as any other EU citizens.

If the Roc doesn't act on this soon, then some concerned tissies should haul the RoC up before the ECHR on this now past-it rule.

(Shame that Sofi person took the RoC's Harem Money and we lost the chance to see the ECHR's opinion on this)

The impression I got from the GC side in the Sofi case was that they would be addressing the 6 months issue. OK, knowing how long it takes for things to happen here (regardless of whether TCs are involved) it could take 10 years to change!

As far as I know the RoC Attorney General's office had to sign a declaration of intent to alter this arrangement as part of the Sofi out of court settlement.

Thanks for that bit of info Tim.

Wouldn't like any ambiguities in treatment Expat Tissies v Tissies.

Well, at least one of my concerns is being addressed fix the justice system too and perhaps we can all begin to feel Cypriot again.

Well Freddie, looks like some of us are scratching your back, question is how and when will you personally start scratching ours ?????

Scratch scratch.

[bill cobbett]

yes, which is why the RoC is changing the law so that ex-pat TC's can get their property back when they want.
Any TC, not just ex-pat. You also need to get rid of the "living in RoC for 6 months while your claim is processed" condition, while you're at it.
The 'trnc' will have to do the same.

I think individuals may need to challenge the RoC legally on this "six months condition", to see whether it has a case for sticking to this stipulation.

Of course, meanwhile individuals are busy challenging Turkey, and its subordinate regime in the north, for depriving them of their property rights, not just for a six month period but indefinitely. The $400 billion class action lawsuit in the US should be particularly interesting as well as all the ECHR judgements.

Yes this 6 month residency rule is well past its sell-by date. Had uses in the past, but now that so many, many tissies have RoC ID cards and passports, the matter of proving identity is much,much easier.

It should be as easy for tissies to enjoy their lands as any other EU citizens.

If the Roc doesn't act on this soon, then some concerned tissies should haul the RoC up before the ECHR on this now past-it rule.

(Shame that Sofi person took the RoC's Harem Money and we lost the chance to see the ECHR's opinion on this)

The impression I got from the GC side in the Sofi case was that they would be addressing the 6 months issue. OK, knowing how long it takes for things to happen here (regardless of whether TCs are involved) it could take 10 years to change!

As far as I know the RoC Attorney General's office had to sign a declaration of intent to alter this arrangement as part of the Sofi out of court settlement.

Thanks for that bit of info Tim.

Wouldn't like any ambiguities in treatment Expat Tissies v Tissies.

Well, at least one of my concerns is being addressed fix the justice system too and perhaps we can all begin to feel Cypriot again.

Well Freddie, looks like some of us are scratching your back, question is how and when will you personally start scratching ours ?????

Scratch scratch.

Obliged to you Freddie.

Sodit. Got another itch, can't reach, just a little more scratching please F., to even things up a little more.