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Orams appeal dismissed

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby wyoming cowboy » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:11 am

...really well we obviously do think we can win and we are a small country think what a russia or greece have in store for you...go ahead let go of uncle sams hand and see what happens ....
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paliometoxo wrote:100.000 greek soldiers 44 k turkish ones.. if we where going to attack we would of even now with 44 k army troops the chances of attack are 0


100.000 armed reservists and 12.000 GC army, even if you had 200.000 you would not attack it would be the end of Cyprus as we know it, Turkey has at its diposal 1 million men. No one can be that stupid to think they can attack Turkey and win espeically not the little "RoC".
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:15 am

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Malapapa wrote:Indeed. But you see, like the judge, I believe this legal opinion hasn't underminded the talks. I believe this has enhanced them because it prevents one side from continuing to talk bollo...x.


Well, what can I say? The GCs have always been known as being full of it.


Have they? I wouldn't know. I'm interested in justice for all Cypriots and bringing outlaws to justice.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Seriously, the GCs now think "Who cares about the talks? If we can't get our land back by talking, we'll do it in the courts." WRONG!


How else do you propose people who've been usurped from their land get it back? Through force?
I don't know, but it won't be through the UK courts, as things stand. The IPC maybe?
vaughanwilliams wrote:You now know from the Orams case that Mr. A got everything back EXCEPT his land.


His land is still his land. If outlaws are preventing him from using it, all he has is the law to challenge them.

Mr. Apostolides always knew, in his own mind, that "his" land was "his" and always had been. He didn't need the court to tell him that. He also knew that under the present circumstances he would never get it physically back. i.e. He would never be allowed to occupy/live in/on it, irrespective of whatever the courts found. Therefore this was only ever a case of causing disruption and not an attempt to regain occupation of his property.
Let's not pretend it was anything else.
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:58 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:How else do you propose people who've been usurped from their land get it back? Through force?

I don't know, but it won't be through the UK courts, as things stand. The IPC maybe?


What's the IPC?

vaughanwilliams wrote:Mr. Apostolides always knew, in his own mind, that "his" land was "his" and always had been. He didn't need the court to tell him that.


No, he needed the court to tell the trespassers to get off his land. Because if outlaws are going to prevent him from enjoying it, then he sure doesn't want anyone else to, or gangsters to profit from swindle on the back of it. Have you never been wronged, vaughanwilliams? Have you never wanted justice? Or have you just spent your whole life benefitting from the misery of others?

vaughanwilliams wrote:He also knew that under the present circumstances he would never get it physically back. i.e. He would never be allowed to occupy/live in/on it, irrespective of whatever the courts found.


Only because ruthless outlaws prevent him by force. What reason is this not to pursue justice? Maybe in your cowardly world you give up in the face of nasty aggression and threats. But certain brave people see such obstacles as a challenge. Unless you've been wronged and lost something dear to you, you wouldn't understand.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Therefore this was only ever a case of causing disruption and not an attempt to regain occupation of his property.
Let's not pretend it was anything else.


Let's not pretend, if gangsters are disrupted from committing more crime, then this is a very good thing. Unless, of course, you're a gangster.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:42 am

Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:How else do you propose people who've been usurped from their land get it back? Through force?

I don't know, but it won't be through the UK courts, as things stand. The IPC maybe?


What's the IPC?

vaughanwilliams wrote:Mr. Apostolides always knew, in his own mind, that "his" land was "his" and always had been. He didn't need the court to tell him that.


No, he needed the court to tell the trespassers to get off his land. Because if outlaws are going to prevent him from enjoying it, then he sure doesn't want anyone else to, or gangsters to profit from swindle on the back of it. Have you never been wronged, vaughanwilliams? Have you never wanted justice? Or have you just spent your whole life benefitting from the misery of others?

vaughanwilliams wrote:He also knew that under the present circumstances he would never get it physically back. i.e. He would never be allowed to occupy/live in/on it, irrespective of whatever the courts found.


Only because ruthless outlaws prevent him by force. What reason is this not to pursue justice? Maybe in your cowardly world you give up in the face of nasty aggression and threats. But certain brave people see such obstacles as a challenge. Unless you've been wronged and lost something dear to you, you wouldn't understand.

vaughanwilliams wrote:Therefore this was only ever a case of causing disruption and not an attempt to regain occupation of his property.
Let's not pretend it was anything else.


Let's not pretend, if gangsters are disrupted from committing more crime, then this is a very good thing. Unless, of course, you're a gangster.


IPC = Immovable Property Commission. Some applicants to the IPC have received their property back. There have been complaints that the IPC isn't fair, but if it gets approved by ECHR(?) then it will be almost mandatory for claims to go through it.
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:58 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:
IPC = Immovable Property Commission. Some applicants to the IPC have received their property back. There have been complaints that the IPC isn't fair, but if it gets approved by ECHR(?) then it will be almost mandatory for claims to go through it.


Give me a break. the IPC represents the outlaw regime, which has stated it will prevent a High Court order, as advised by the European Court of Justice, to knock down Miss Piggy's straw house.

There is not a carpetbagger's chance in hell-hole that the ECHR will approve it. The ECJ has confirmed that the RoC has jursidiction over the whole island so unless the IPC is approved by the RoC government it will be deemed another discredited branch of the "Tiarrenci" organised crime family.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:03 pm

Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
IPC = Immovable Property Commission. Some applicants to the IPC have received their property back. There have been complaints that the IPC isn't fair, but if it gets approved by ECHR(?) then it will be almost mandatory for claims to go through it.


Give me a break. the IPC represents the outlaw regime, which has stated it will prevent a High Court order, as advised by the European Court of Justice, to knock down Miss Piggy's straw house.

There is not a carpetbagger's chance in hell-hole that the ECHR will approve it. The ECJ has confirmed that the RoC has jursidiction over the whole island so unless the IPC is approved by the RoC government it will be deemed another discredited branch of the "Tiarrenci" organised crime family.


Not what I hear. Only time will tell on that. :wink:
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:12 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
IPC = Immovable Property Commission. Some applicants to the IPC have received their property back. There have been complaints that the IPC isn't fair, but if it gets approved by ECHR(?) then it will be almost mandatory for claims to go through it.


Give me a break. the IPC represents the outlaw regime, which has stated it will prevent a High Court order, as advised by the European Court of Justice, to knock down Miss Piggy's straw house.

There is not a carpetbagger's chance in hell-hole that the ECHR will approve it. The ECJ has confirmed that the RoC has jursidiction over the whole island so unless the IPC is approved by the RoC government it will be deemed another discredited branch of the "Tiarrenci" organised crime family.


Not what I hear. Only time will tell on that. :wink:


vaughan, please. I expect desperate straw-clutching from the likes of Viewpoint. Time will tell no such thing. I'm telling you now. It won't happen. It can't happen.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:24 pm

Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
IPC = Immovable Property Commission. Some applicants to the IPC have received their property back. There have been complaints that the IPC isn't fair, but if it gets approved by ECHR(?) then it will be almost mandatory for claims to go through it.


Give me a break. the IPC represents the outlaw regime, which has stated it will prevent a High Court order, as advised by the European Court of Justice, to knock down Miss Piggy's straw house.

There is not a carpetbagger's chance in hell-hole that the ECHR will approve it. The ECJ has confirmed that the RoC has jursidiction over the whole island so unless the IPC is approved by the RoC government it will be deemed another discredited branch of the "Tiarrenci" organised crime family.


Not what I hear. Only time will tell on that. :wink:


vaughan, please. I expect desperate straw-clutching from the likes of Viewpoint. Time will tell no such thing. I'm telling you now. It won't happen. It can't happen.


It's nice to see Vaughan so full of confidence when on CY44 they are all trying to fiure how to put the illegal properties into a trust so that they don't officially own it! They only need to occupy it to be done! Having bought there in the first place shows the level of their IQs!
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:37 pm

Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
IPC = Immovable Property Commission. Some applicants to the IPC have received their property back. There have been complaints that the IPC isn't fair, but if it gets approved by ECHR(?) then it will be almost mandatory for claims to go through it.


Give me a break. the IPC represents the outlaw regime, which has stated it will prevent a High Court order, as advised by the European Court of Justice, to knock down Miss Piggy's straw house.

There is not a carpetbagger's chance in hell-hole that the ECHR will approve it. The ECJ has confirmed that the RoC has jursidiction over the whole island so unless the IPC is approved by the RoC government it will be deemed another discredited branch of the "Tiarrenci" organised crime family.


Not what I hear. Only time will tell on that. :wink:


vaughan, please. I expect desperate straw-clutching from the likes of Viewpoint. Time will tell no such thing. I'm telling you now. It won't happen. It can't happen.


They say you should never say "never" and you can't say "can't."
I'm prepared for you to refer me back to this thread at a later date.
Are you? :)
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:44 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
IPC = Immovable Property Commission. Some applicants to the IPC have received their property back. There have been complaints that the IPC isn't fair, but if it gets approved by ECHR(?) then it will be almost mandatory for claims to go through it.


Give me a break. the IPC represents the outlaw regime, which has stated it will prevent a High Court order, as advised by the European Court of Justice, to knock down Miss Piggy's straw house.

There is not a carpetbagger's chance in hell-hole that the ECHR will approve it. The ECJ has confirmed that the RoC has jursidiction over the whole island so unless the IPC is approved by the RoC government it will be deemed another discredited branch of the "Tiarrenci" organised crime family.


Not what I hear. Only time will tell on that. :wink:


vaughan, please. I expect desperate straw-clutching from the likes of Viewpoint. Time will tell no such thing. I'm telling you now. It won't happen. It can't happen.


They say you should never say "never" and you can't say "can't."
I'm prepared for you to refer me back to this thread at a later date.
Are you? :)


You've been living in bandit territory too long, vaughan. It's made you believe you're immune, both to the law and how it works in the civilised world.
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