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[Malapapa]

Talk about it whenever you like!

Do you think these ruins would be here if it were not for the Romans? Do you think these Cypriot labourers would have had the idea and designed and built these places themselves?

Errr, the establishment of Salamis predates the Roman era by centuries.

[Oracle]

But, but, but ... my guidebook here says it is an ancient ROMAN city! lol!

Salamis was mentioned by Homer long before Romulus and Remus were even weaned by the she-wolf.

[Gasman]

Does it? Well who did design and have it built? I don't need the nationality of every bricklayer - just that of those who decided to and paid for it to be built.

[Oracle]

There are ancient Roman remains and roads in the UK - I am sure the indigenous population worked on them. They still refer to them as ROMAN!

Exactly!

Now, if the Turks had taken over the UK, they would have claimed they had built the Roman roads or whatever suited them politically. Historical revisionism. Tried, tested and taught by Turks.

Now do you get it?

[Get Real!]

Talk about it whenever you like!

Do you think these ruins would be here if it were not for the Romans? Do you think these Cypriot labourers would have had the idea and designed and built these places themselves?

Maybe your blinkered attitude is a tale-tell sign of the treachery taking place in the occupied territory…

Is the story you’re selling pretty much…

“Everything is Roman! Cypriots vanished for thousands of years and returned to the island in 1960 to bother us!”

Is that pretty much the story you’re selling, and if not what exactly is it?

[Oracle]

Talk about it whenever you like!

Do you think these ruins would be here if it were not for the Romans? Do you think these Cypriot labourers would have had the idea and designed and built these places themselves?

Maybe your blinkered attitude is a tale-tell sign of the treachery taking place in the occupied territory…

Is the story you’re selling pretty much…

“Everything is Roman! Cypriots vanished for thousands of years and returned to the island in 1960 to bother us!”

Is that pretty much the story you’re selling, and if not what exactly is it?

GR!

This guy has a serious inability to relate time-lines. Went round in circles with him on another thread, because he could not visualise the reality that there was once a historical time-point in Cyprus which pre-dated the Turks.

Interesting brain abnormality ...

[Get Real!]

Talk about it whenever you like!

Do you think these ruins would be here if it were not for the Romans? Do you think these Cypriot labourers would have had the idea and designed and built these places themselves?

Maybe your blinkered attitude is a tale-tell sign of the treachery taking place in the occupied territory…

Is the story you’re selling pretty much…

“Everything is Roman! Cypriots vanished for thousands of years and returned to the island in 1960 to bother us!”

Is that pretty much the story you’re selling, and if not what exactly is it?

GR!

This guy has a serious inability to relate time-lines. Went round in circles with him on another thread, because he could not visualise the reality that there was once a historical time-point in Cyprus which pre-dated the Turks.

Interesting brain abnormality ...

Well I’m willing to give him an opportunity to explain himself since he was the first and only person to adamantly jump on the “Roman” bandwagon…

[Gasman]

Now do you get it?

No. Because my brochure was given to me by the Turk or TC who took my entrance fee when I visited Salamis. Been there about four times now - not up to seeing all of it in one go. No tour guide involved. Never had a tour guide in my life.

And this is what it said in the brochure. And it is what it says in my book about ancient Roman ruins.

As for some circular argument about time lines for ancient civilisations - not the foggiest what you are on about.

Must be someone else you took a dislike to. You assumed I was pro TC all by yourself.

Seems anyone who doesn't post with a vehement rant AGAINST TCs is assumed to be pro TC and anti GC by some.

Like a lot of foreigners who come to Cyprus say - I can't tell the difference between them. I speak neither of their languages and they both look much the same and are both welcoming and friendly.

I read somewhere that it was the Brits who first came up with the names TC and GC and before that, they were all Cypriot. Blimey, you think they'd warn us in the UK to be sure to know the difference when we get here wouldn't you!

[denizaksulu]

I found some garbage here.

I dont know whether I should laugh or cry.

It is self explanatory.

"Wherever you travel in North Cyprus, the history comes alive...

For nine thousand years, Cyprus has been a melting pot of great civilisations; from the Neolithic settlements on the northern coast to the Egyptian, Persian, Roman, Venetian, Ottoman and British Empires. Its strategic location at the cross-roads of East and West has bestowed on the island with a rich and colourful history spanning centuries.


During the course of its vibrant past, the island has been visited by the Romans, Alexander the Great and Richard the Lion Heart, to name a few, each leaving its own unique footprint.


First Settlers


For a good sense of how it all began, the island’s museums are well worth a visit for their fascinating array of artefacts discovered in cave dwellings dating from 7000BC, when the first inhabitants of Cyprus are said to have settled.


From 3000-700 BC, Cyprus began to emerge as a trading centre, with copper mines drawing merchants from all across the Mediterranean. Attracted to the growing opportunities, settlers arrived from Anatolia and Phoenicians from Syria, bringing new Levantine architecture, ceramics and metal working to the island.


Melting Pot of Civilisations


The Persians first adopted Cyprus as a base for their wars with Greece i n the 6th Century BC, lasting until 333 BC when Alexander the Great brought the Persian Empire to a sudden end. The Ptolemies of Egypt ruled for the next 250 years - a glorious period punctuated by Rome's invasion of the island in 48 BC. But, Roman rule only lasted a few years, as Julius Caesar bestowed the island to his lover, Cleopatra, the last of the Ptolemies as a gift of love. Only following her death was Emperor Augustus able to return Cyprus to the fold of the Roman Empire.


Between the 1st and 10th Centuries, multiple communities emerged on the island, with Muslim and Byzantine settlers coexisting in relative harmony - that is, until 965 AD, when the Byzantines took full control of the island after defeating the Muslim Caliphate’s Egyptian fleet.



Byzantine rule lasted until the 12th Century, when King Richard the Lion-Heart handed the island to Guy de Lusignan, a member of French Medieval Royalty, to finance his expeditions. The Lusignans, inhabited the island for 300 years, from the 12th Century until 1489, when the Venetians captured the island and bestowed upon it the impressive Girne Castle, as well as the celebrated architecture of Gazimağusa (Famagusta) and Lefkoşa (Nicosia), which are all well worth a visit.



The northern Tourist Office seems to have re-written history.

Older tourist guides talk of the Helenic Period. Now it has disappeared. They mention Alex (GR's fav.) the Great and the Byzantines and nothing else. Were the ancient sea-faring Greek colonisers a myth?

http://northcyprus.cc/index.php/front/history

Shameful!

[Oracle]

The Founding Story of Salamis

Teucer announces, “Despair in no way, tomorrow we will set out upon the vast ocean[for a new homeland in Cyprus].”At the end of the Trojan War, Teucer returned to his home island of Salamis (an island near Greece) carrying news of his brother, Ajax’s, death to his father, KingTelamon. The king cursed Teucer for not preventing his brother’s death nor did he avenge his brother’s death on Odysseus. King Telamon had mistakenly thought that Teucer had abandoned Ajax in his moment of need because he had his eye on the throne and future kingdom of Salamis. It was on this reasoning that King Telamon made his decision to banish Teucer from his island homeland of Salamis. Humiliated and dejected, Teucer sails away with his soldiers in search of Cyprus in hopes of making this island their new home. On the way, Teucer’s ship is blown off course. After several days of being lost in the Mediterranean Sea, Teucer lands on the shores of Egypt. He had heard that the famous prophetess Theonoe lived in Egypt. She had been born with the gift of divine knowledge of all things present and to come. He decides to go ashore to seek out an oracle or revelation from Theonoe. If he spoke with Theonoe, Teucer had confidence he would know the correct course to take to get to Cyprus. He says: “The reason of my coming to this royal palace was a wish to see the famous prophetess Theonoe. I wish to ask how I shall steer a favorable course to the sea-girt shores of Cyprus; for there Apollo hath declared my home shall be, giving to it the nameof Salamis.” Teucer – son of King Telamon Instead of finding Theonoe, he stumbles into a beautiful woman, Helen. She says to him, “Who are you and where are you going? Teucer responds by telling her about his participation in the battle of Troy and that he has been exiled from his birthplace, the island of Salamis by his father King Telamon. Teucer also tells her that he had been sailing to Cyprus to make a new home but has lost his way. He says he is looking for Theonoe to learn from her the quickest course to Cyprus. Helen replies that Cyprus is easy to find but he should leave Egypt soon before the king of the land, son of Proteus, finds him there. The king kills all Greeks who approach the shores of Egypt. Helen tells Teucer the way to Cyprus and Teucer safely leaves Egypt bound for his new home. After he arrives in Cyprus, Teucer founds a new Salamis, the city of Salamis, which he names in honor of his birthplace.

Salamis was the capital of Cyprus until the Romans conquered Cyprus.

Salamis was eventually destroyed by earthquakes sometime around332 A.D. – 342 A.D.
The ruins of Salamis are located on the eastern coast of Cyprus.

Source: cmes.arizona.edu