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[Daisy May]

http://www.londragazete.co.uk/publish/i ... page44.pdf

Is there any chance of talking about this article without the usual mudslinging and name calling? I do hope so

[B25]

http://www.londragazete.co.uk/publish/issue%20465/print/page44.pdf

Is there any chance of talking about this article without the usual mudslinging and name calling? I do hope so

No mud slinging, but the first paragraph says it all "Political Witchhunt" .

that was enough to se that it is already a biased propoganda write up.

So, OK I thought, let me just read a few more lines in casr I am over reacting. So, then it goes on about TC victims etc etc.
Stop, purely a propoganda piece, not poosible to discuss this.

Good luck.

[Daisy May]

So, just for the record, do you honestly believe that no TC's at all were hurt?

[paliometoxo]

http://www.londragazete.co.uk/publish/issue%20465/print/page44.pdf

Is there any chance of talking about this article without the usual mudslinging and name calling? I do hope so

Do you mind pasting the Article please? I don't like pdf's

[Piratis]

Lies and the usual Turkish propaganda.

First of all, the inter-communal conflict didn't start in 1963, but in 1958, when the TCs attacked GCs and started burning the shops and homes of innocent people on the 7th of June, and with the subsequent massacre of innocent GCs near Gyonelly on the 12th of June 1958.



In the conflict that TCs started some 100s of people from both sides were killed. Where did this person see the "genocide"? Genocide is what the Turks committed against the Armenians where they killed a million and a half of them. And in Cyprus the Turks have killed on several occasions several 1000s and even 10s of thousands of people.

The root of the Cyprus problem is the expansionism of Turkey against our island. Partition was behind the attacks of TCs against GCs in the 1950s, and the same aim remains today. Kucuk (the TC leader) had published a map showing a divided Cyprus from the 1950s, and Denktash said in 1964: "We wish to establish a federal administration in Cyprus. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to move a portion of the Turks from one place to another place and to concentrate our people in certain parts of the island".

The Turks have absolutely no right for any "Turkish state" on territory which has been inhabited by a majority of GCs for 1000s of years. No matter how many conflicts and wars they start, no matter how many crimes and illegalities they commit, no matter how many lies their propaganda makes, the north part of our country will never become theirs. They can only keep it illegally and suffer the consequences. And be sure that the Orams case is just the beginning.

[Piratis]

So, just for the record, do you honestly believe that no TC's at all were hurt?

Of course some TCs were hurt during the conflict and wars that Turks and TCs started against us. But if you didn't start those wars and conflicts and you instead accepted democracy and human rights, then nobody would be hurt.

[B25]

So, just for the record, do you honestly believe that no TC's at all were hurt?

No I don't beleive that at all, many TCs were hurt, treated badly and so on, but it is not as black and white as you are trying to make out.

We have said many time, including our President, who publically apologised about the ill treatment of the TCs, that we accepted this. The TCs however have never said this officially and many TCs here don't accpet the treatment we had to endure from the hands of the TCs / Tr.

[Get Real!]

http://www.londragazete.co.uk/publish/issue%20465/print/page44.pdf

Is there any chance of talking about this article without the usual mudslinging and name calling? I do hope so

A “London Turkish” article? Sure, you can use that to light up the barbecue…

[Tim Drayton]

With reference to the following quote from the article:

What about the land in the South belonging to Turkish Cypriots that
has been occupied, sold, and misappropriated by Greek Cypriots?

I hope that, now the Orams case has set a precedent, Turkish Cypriots will also pursue their legitmate rights through the international courts.

[Piratis]

With reference to the following quote from the article:

What about the land in the South belonging to Turkish Cypriots that
has been occupied, sold, and misappropriated by Greek Cypriots?

I hope that, now the Orams case has set a precedent, Turkish Cypriots will also pursue their legitmate rights through the international courts.

In the free parts of Cyprus the Turkish Cypriot properties were not sold or misappropriated. They are only used to

(1) House the refugees whose own houses were taken by the Turks.
(2) Expropriated by the government to build public infrastructure (roads, schools, airports etc) in the same way that any other property is expropriated.

We have only targeted foreigners in the occupied areas, but if the TCs want to target the GC refugees, then they should be certain that a ton of law suits against TCs will follow and the TCs have a lot more to lose than gain if they start this game.

In fact I hope they will do it, so it will be then be proven beyond any doubt that there was never any such thing as an "exchange" of properties, and that all people want to return to their own homes and they do not want any kind of exchange.