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[denizaksulu]

With reference to the following quote from the article:

What about the land in the South belonging to Turkish Cypriots that
has been occupied, sold, and misappropriated by Greek Cypriots?

I hope that, now the Orams case has set a precedent, Turkish Cypriots will also pursue their legitmate rights through the international courts.

In the free parts of Cyprus the Turkish Cypriot properties were not sold or misappropriated. They are only used to

(1) House the refugees whose own houses were taken by the Turks.
(2) Expropriated by the government to build public infrastructure (roads, schools, airports etc) in the same way that any other property is expropriated.

We have only targeted foreigners in the occupied areas, but if the TCs want to target the GC refugees, then they should be certain that a ton of law suits against TCs will follow and the TCs have a lot more to lose than gain if they start this game.

In fact I hope they will do it, so it will be then be proven beyond any doubt that there was never any such thing as an "exchange" of properties, and that all people want to return to their own homes and they do not want any kind of exchange.

On the whole, I do not believe the RoC has misused Turkish Cypriot land. Some land has been expropriated for public use (in our case, a motorway was built through it - Anglissidhes) A paltry sum was offered. Not yet received. In our village a mosque raised to the ground and a 'childrens park and gardens' built. Apart from that - and perhaps a ferw more which I do not know about, as long you have the legal Kochans, you have the right. The conditions the RoC attach to regaining properties will be improving (or so I heard).

Personally I am happy that our family home is still occupied by refugees. I have no intention of making them homeless - again.

Here Piratis, we have common ground.

Sorry, no Gramaphone needed this time.

[yorgozlu]

With reference to the following quote from the article:

What about the land in the South belonging to Turkish Cypriots that
has been occupied, sold, and misappropriated by Greek Cypriots?

I hope that, now the Orams case has set a precedent, Turkish Cypriots will also pursue their legitmate rights through the international courts.

In the free parts of Cyprus the Turkish Cypriot properties were not sold or misappropriated. They are only used to

(1) House the refugees whose own houses were taken by the Turks.
(2) Expropriated by the government to build public infrastructure (roads, schools, airports etc) in the same way that any other property is expropriated.

We have only targeted foreigners in the occupied areas, but if the TCs want to target the GC refugees, then they should be certain that a ton of law suits against TCs will follow and the TCs have a lot more to lose than gain if they start this game.

In fact I hope they will do it, so it will be then be proven beyond any doubt that there was never any such thing as an "exchange" of properties, and that all people want to return to their own homes and they do not want any kind of exchange.

Some Turkish Cypriots allege otherwise, so why do they not now follow the course of action taken by Apostolides and Sofi?

Would you like some JAM on your BREAD and BUTTER as well.

If you were not aware of this, Nezire Sofi is a Turkish Cypriot who has regained what is rightly hers.

Don't you mean,she had sold it because SHE no longer wishes to RETURN?
Indeed I am,as well as being AWARE of your Greek TACTICS.

What has she sold?

Surely,she did not get 500.000 euros for nothing!!
SELLING=COMPENSATION
Would you not agree?

No, in the out of court settlement, Nezire Sofi:

1- secured the return of her land in Larnca, and
2- accepted 500,000 euro in compensation (for having been denied the use of this land).

The outcome would still be the same other then the FIGURES.

Perhaps Epsilon can explain to me what this person is trying to say?

Hard,but I will try to keep the topic going.
The game is obvious.
You,the GCs allow TCs(via EU) to reclaim their land/property back,and in return you,GCs will demand theirs back,right?Just like that,one at a time!!

[Tim Drayton]

Tim do you have a link to the full details anywhere by any chance?

Any use?

http://www.yeniduzen.com/detay.asp?a=17095&z=19

[YFred]

Tim do you have a link to the full details anywhere by any chance?

Any use?

http://www.yeniduzen.com/detay.asp?a=17095&z=19

Yep thanks for that Tim.

[revolver]

Good debate about this issue, as far as compare with some other topics with all those bad languages.
Orams case is the end of the road for property case in north, whereas Sofi case is nearly done the same for south.
according to the decision: nazire sofi claimed 540.000euros compensation including expenses and usage of propery as well as return of two house she owns in Larnaca.
On the other hand, CY goverment promise EHRC to (under take order) to change the 'gurdianship system'.
What i beleive, the sytem in the north which determined the titles like 'golifa' is failed and it is against the international law.
But on the other hand, this guardianship system can not work perfectly.
Now there are TC waiting to get thier expropration money.
For example, there is a man I know, his family is waiting to claim 7 million euros for thier properties in tahtakale, Lefkoşa.
CY rep goverment told them to wait until comprehansive peace deal and that can be last forever unfortunatly.
For me, peace deal is the best way beacuse no one will get benefit from this division.
Titles are belong to the first owners and thats it.
More court case means more problem for both sides.
All I wish is peace deal.
Please dont forget guys, Cyprus is our mother land. for both of us.

[YFred]

Good debate about this issue, as far as compare with some other topics with all those bad languages.
Orams case is the end of the road for property case in north, whereas Sofi case is nearly done the same for south.
according to the decision: nazire sofi claimed 540.000euros compensation including expenses and usage of propery as well as return of two house she owns in Larnaca.
On the other hand, CY goverment promise EHRC to (under take order) to change the 'gurdianship system'.
What i beleive, the sytem in the north which determined the titles like 'golifa' is failed and it is against the international law.
But on the other hand, this guardianship system can not work perfectly.
Now there are TC waiting to get thier expropration money.
For example, there is a man I know, his family is waiting to claim 7 million euros for thier properties in tahtakale, Lefkoşa.
CY rep goverment told them to wait until comprehansive peace deal and that can be last forever unfortunatly.
For me, peace deal is the best way beacuse no one will get benefit from this division.
Titles are belong to the first owners and thats it.
More court case means more problem for both sides.
All I wish is peace deal.
Please dont forget guys, Cyprus is our mother land. for both of us.

But, according to our GC friends, the roc is where you get justice under the law. This does not look like or even smell like justice for the TCs. It smells more like bullshit.
Over to my GC friends.

[boomerang]

Good debate about this issue, as far as compare with some other topics with all those bad languages.
Orams case is the end of the road for property case in north, whereas Sofi case is nearly done the same for south.
according to the decision: nazire sofi claimed 540.000euros compensation including expenses and usage of propery as well as return of two house she owns in Larnaca.
On the other hand, CY goverment promise EHRC to (under take order) to change the 'gurdianship system'.
What i beleive, the sytem in the north which determined the titles like 'golifa' is failed and it is against the international law.
But on the other hand, this guardianship system can not work perfectly.
Now there are TC waiting to get thier expropration money.
For example, there is a man I know, his family is waiting to claim 7 million euros for thier properties in tahtakale, Lefkoşa.
CY rep goverment told them to wait until comprehansive peace deal and that can be last forever unfortunatly.
For me, peace deal is the best way beacuse no one will get benefit from this division.
Titles are belong to the first owners and thats it.
More court case means more problem for both sides.
All I wish is peace deal.
Please dont forget guys, Cyprus is our mother land. for both of us.

But, according to our GC friends, the roc is where you get justice under the law. This does not look like or even smell like justice for the TCs. It smells more like bullshit.
Over to my GC friends.

here is an easy one....why not everyone back to their homes...now this is justice for all...wouldn't you agree old boy?...what?...

[YFred]

Good debate about this issue, as far as compare with some other topics with all those bad languages.
Orams case is the end of the road for property case in north, whereas Sofi case is nearly done the same for south.
according to the decision: nazire sofi claimed 540.000euros compensation including expenses and usage of propery as well as return of two house she owns in Larnaca.
On the other hand, CY goverment promise EHRC to (under take order) to change the 'gurdianship system'.
What i beleive, the sytem in the north which determined the titles like 'golifa' is failed and it is against the international law.
But on the other hand, this guardianship system can not work perfectly.
Now there are TC waiting to get thier expropration money.
For example, there is a man I know, his family is waiting to claim 7 million euros for thier properties in tahtakale, Lefkoşa.
CY rep goverment told them to wait until comprehansive peace deal and that can be last forever unfortunatly.
For me, peace deal is the best way beacuse no one will get benefit from this division.
Titles are belong to the first owners and thats it.
More court case means more problem for both sides.
All I wish is peace deal.
Please dont forget guys, Cyprus is our mother land. for both of us.

But, according to our GC friends, the roc is where you get justice under the law. This does not look like or even smell like justice for the TCs. It smells more like bullshit.
Over to my GC friends.

here is an easy one....why not everyone back to their homes...now this is justice for all...wouldn't you agree old boy?...what?...

You can smell blood in your nostrils. I would agree with it if I thought it was possible, but it is not. We will be back to 63 before you can blink.

[boomerang]

Good debate about this issue, as far as compare with some other topics with all those bad languages.
Orams case is the end of the road for property case in north, whereas Sofi case is nearly done the same for south.
according to the decision: nazire sofi claimed 540.000euros compensation including expenses and usage of propery as well as return of two house she owns in Larnaca.
On the other hand, CY goverment promise EHRC to (under take order) to change the 'gurdianship system'.
What i beleive, the sytem in the north which determined the titles like 'golifa' is failed and it is against the international law.
But on the other hand, this guardianship system can not work perfectly.
Now there are TC waiting to get thier expropration money.
For example, there is a man I know, his family is waiting to claim 7 million euros for thier properties in tahtakale, Lefkoşa.
CY rep goverment told them to wait until comprehansive peace deal and that can be last forever unfortunatly.
For me, peace deal is the best way beacuse no one will get benefit from this division.
Titles are belong to the first owners and thats it.
More court case means more problem for both sides.
All I wish is peace deal.
Please dont forget guys, Cyprus is our mother land. for both of us.

But, according to our GC friends, the roc is where you get justice under the law. This does not look like or even smell like justice for the TCs. It smells more like bullshit.
Over to my GC friends.

here is an easy one....why not everyone back to their homes...now this is justice for all...wouldn't you agree old boy?...what?...

You can smell blood in your nostrils. I would agree with it if I thought it was possible, but it is not. We will be back to 63 before you can blink.

you do well in stop looking at balls...coz every prediction by you so far hasn't come through....or then again you might mistakently be looking at the wrong type of balls..

[YFred]

Good debate about this issue, as far as compare with some other topics with all those bad languages.
Orams case is the end of the road for property case in north, whereas Sofi case is nearly done the same for south.
according to the decision: nazire sofi claimed 540.000euros compensation including expenses and usage of propery as well as return of two house she owns in Larnaca.
On the other hand, CY goverment promise EHRC to (under take order) to change the 'gurdianship system'.
What i beleive, the sytem in the north which determined the titles like 'golifa' is failed and it is against the international law.
But on the other hand, this guardianship system can not work perfectly.
Now there are TC waiting to get thier expropration money.
For example, there is a man I know, his family is waiting to claim 7 million euros for thier properties in tahtakale, Lefkoşa.
CY rep goverment told them to wait until comprehansive peace deal and that can be last forever unfortunatly.
For me, peace deal is the best way beacuse no one will get benefit from this division.
Titles are belong to the first owners and thats it.
More court case means more problem for both sides.
All I wish is peace deal.
Please dont forget guys, Cyprus is our mother land. for both of us.

But, according to our GC friends, the roc is where you get justice under the law. This does not look like or even smell like justice for the TCs. It smells more like bullshit.
Over to my GC friends.

here is an easy one....why not everyone back to their homes...now this is justice for all...wouldn't you agree old boy?...what?...

You can smell blood in your nostrils. I would agree with it if I thought it was possible, but it is not. We will be back to 63 before you can blink.

you do well in stop looking at balls...coz every prediction by you so far hasn't come through....or then again you might mistakently be looking at the wrong type of balls..

Don't you worry your little head now. You hear cobber.