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[Pyrpolizer]

I did not have any direct experience of how that period affected the TCs, and as I said in other topics the average GC had absolutely no idea. All we were hearing was for "troubles" here and there.
I learned the details many years later after studying various sources from the internet. From what I learned the death toll was higher among the TC people than that among GC people however those numbers were so small, that equal the number of dead people we have today at road accidents over an 11 year period...(I did that calculation last year when omeone said the TCs were been killed from 1963-1974 -11 years that is). Anyway that death toll seemed to fit well with what the GCs were hearng about "troubles" given the fact they also had their own death toll. Yet the Tcs still insist to call that a "massacre".

In any case the TCs come with so strong feelings about that period (not only in this forum but in real life as well), that made me question myself as to why? I asked myself whether they suffer some sort of massive hysteria/paranoia, or whether they were brainwashed to beleive what they beleive, or whether they were trained to lie as much as poossible as part of their national goal.I then thought that such questions don't stand to logic. So I had no other logical option than take it for granted that those feelings were genuine.

Even so however I still had problems explaining the reasons. I 've put a lot of thought on that and I concluded some things which I am not sure how valid they are:

My personal opinion is that it has mostly to do with losing the feeling of securirty in their own homes. As many TCs said "It was like going to bed and night and not knowing if you will wake up alive in the morning". Even a 1 per thousand possibility of that happening is enough for every parent parent to have enourmous stress, and unbearable load for the safety of the family.It is enough for every child to be afraid go for sleep at night or have nightmares when it does..
Then I figured this feeling went on for to long, for some TCs is was for a few months after 1963, for others for a few years from 1963 to 1967 and for others all the way from 1963 to 1974.
We all know the majority of Tcs got concentrated in some ghetto type areas called enclaves. This separation together with the resentment caused by those "troubles" between the two communities made the TCs very vulnerable to any sort of injustice coming from those who were the majority, the GCs i.e.
So an extra feature got added to the total insecurity feeling: that of injustice.

Please comment and or add your thoughts.Contribution mainly required from TCs. Please concentrate to the question of the topic.

[denizaksulu]

Hi Pyro.

What a question. As far as I am aware, there are only three TC CF'r who can give a response to the years 1963/4. I believe all three of us have written first hand accounts of our experiences. I was eighteen at the time Bir and Kikapu were much younger but have vivid memories. I have recounted my story and feelings at least twice. You were around and must have read them.
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[Pyrpolizer]

Hi Deniz,

Yes I kind of put difficult questions in the forum...
Trying to get some help in torturing myself in understanding this world

No my friend, i don't remember anything about you. The only thing I think I know about you is that you are from aksu(?) which is Angissidhes. Could you please give me a link to your story and feelings, i would like to read them.

Thanks.

NB. I've read everything from Bir and Kikapu. Superb reading. Both of them should have been professional writers if you ask me.

[Viewpoint]

Pyro my father in law can give you all the details of how they were always living in fear and 11 years of being discriminated against being treated as second class citizens by the GCs, I can introduce you if you wish and he can take you to his regular coffee shop where many older TCs can tell you their memories and "Why the TCs feel so strong for the 64-67, 67-74 period".

[denizaksulu]

Hi Deniz,

Yes I kind of put difficult questions in the forum...
Trying to get some help in torturing myself in understanding this world

No my friend, i don't remember anything about you. The only thing I think I know about you is that you are from aksu(?) which is Angissidhes. Could you please give me a link to your story and feelings, i would like to read them.

Thanks.

Thats like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'll give it a try.(and search)

[Pyrpolizer]

@ VP

If i meet your father in law then surely I will trace you VP and maybe you will put your life in danger, no?
Seriously now, I 've heard a lot of stories. I 've put the general sentiment of those stories under the heading "injustice" (see my post).

Am I missing anything else?

[Pyrpolizer]

Hi Deniz,

Yes I kind of put difficult questions in the forum...
Trying to get some help in torturing myself in understanding this world

No my friend, i don't remember anything about you. The only thing I think I know about you is that you are from aksu(?) which is Angissidhes. Could you please give me a link to your story and feelings, i would like to read them.

Thanks.

Thats like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'll give it a try.(and search)

If you remember a particular phrase you wrote, or particular name that would come easy i think.

[Viewpoint]

@ VP

If i meet your father in law then surely I will trace you VP and maybe you will put your life in danger, no?
Seriously now, I 've heard a lot of stories. I 've put the general sentiment of those stories under the heading "injustice" (see my post).

Am I missing anything else?

Thank you for respecting my privacy, the feeling of fear back then generated ingrained mistrust is so strong that it will be near enough impossible to erase.

[denizaksulu]

Hi Deniz,

Yes I kind of put difficult questions in the forum...
Trying to get some help in torturing myself in understanding this world

No my friend, i don't remember anything about you. The only thing I think I know about you is that you are from aksu(?) which is Angissidhes. Could you please give me a link to your story and feelings, i would like to read them.

Thanks.

Thats like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'll give it a try.(and search)

If you remember a particular phrase you wrote, or particular name that would come easy i think.

This and the link on the first page might be one of them:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... t+december

[denizaksulu]

I will try again. Its not the detailed one I thought it was. I will get there; if not I will re-type it.