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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:12 am

aussieturk wrote:Yeah, just a title showing 50 acres of land, probably not worth much over there in the South

Whatever you say… because the other day we had some other TC dude claiming to own half of Larnaca, and I just don’t know how the hell you’re all gonna squeeze into the 12.3% of land you owned combined! :lol:

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Postby aussieturk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:16 am

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Get Real! wrote:Yeah, just a title showing 50 acres of land, probably not worth much over there in the South

Well then you'd better get on board with a solution, so that you can claim what's rightfully yours along with everybody else! And when you build a resort on it, I'll be sure to be one of your first guests!

Or were you thinking that maybe you should get your land back while the 78% of land in the occupied north legitimately owned by GCs ought to continue to be exploited by TCs?


A solution must be found, but I doubt it will, because the land is the sticking point. So many people have built, sold and made money, they will not give it up, and they have influence over the Governmens on both sides of the Island.
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Re: The Land and those that build on it - Turkish Land

Postby paliometoxo » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:16 am

aussieturk wrote:The South talks about the Orams case and other land built on ion the North, but fails to talk about the Turkish Title land in the South.

In the South, land has been built on by Greeks, fortunates have been made, but will they be happy to give it up and compensate the rightful owners. My family had 50 acres in the South near Larnaca, my mothers village has been demolished and brand new houses have been built by Greek developers.

I wonder how much money I am owed as part of my inheritance?


You make a good point Aussie, But Let me say that the Turkish army forced the Greek cypriots of out their homes into the south side of cyprus from the north, so the Greek Cypriots had nowhere to go they HAD to move into these houses and use turkish cypriot land where as the tcs no one forced them to and infact lots of tcs still live in their homes in limassol and nicosia and other parts of cyprus living happily with gcs, well apart from gabira he or she is unhappy there or does not care. and the gcs are denied the right to go home.

so gcs really had no choice in the matter and you cant tell me you expect gcs to live on the streets?:)
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Re: The Land and those that build on it - Turkish Land

Postby aussieturk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:20 am

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aussieturk wrote:The South talks about the Orams case and other land built on ion the North, but fails to talk about the Turkish Title land in the South.

In the South, land has been built on by Greeks, fortunates have been made, but will they be happy to give it up and compensate the rightful owners. My family had 50 acres in the South near Larnaca, my mothers village has been demolished and brand new houses have been built by Greek developers.

I wonder how much money I am owed as part of my inheritance?


You make a good point Aussie, But Let me say that the Turkish army forced the Greek cypriots of out their homes into the south side of cyprus from the north, so the Greek Cypriots had nowhere to go they HAD to move into these houses and use turkish cypriot land where as the tcs no one forced them to and infact lots of tcs still live in their homes in limassol and nicosia and other parts of cyprus living happily with gcs, well apart from gabira he or she is unhappy there or does not care. and the gcs are denied the right to go home.

so gcs really had no choice in the matter and you cant tell me you expect gcs to live on the streets?:)


I agree, the gcs had no choice, but either did the tcs as once the Island was partitioned, there was fear of persecution, so they had to move. All I am saying is that there is a lot of talk about the land in the North, but I read nothing about the land in the south that has now been developed and is worth a lot more than in the North and people have made millions from it.
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Postby Epiktitos » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:21 am

aussieturk wrote:A solution must be found, but I doubt it will, because the land is the sticking point. So many people have built, sold and made money, they will not give it up, and they have influence over the Governmens on both sides of the Island.

Land certainly is a sticking point - the tcnuland regime is stuck unable to give up their ill gotten gains because they know that any kind of equitable solution in line with UNSC resolutions and the EU acquis will require them to give up the bulk of what they've stolen in the occupied north in the exchange for significantly less in the free south.
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Postby aussieturk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:26 am

Epiktitos wrote:
aussieturk wrote: Land certainly is a sticking point - the tcnuland regime is stuck unable to give up their ill gotten gains because they know that any kind of equitable solution in line with UNSC resolutions and the EU acquis will require them to give up the bulk of what they've stolen in the occupied north in the exchange for significantly less in the free south.


True, but being realistic, Cyprus will never ever be the same as it was pre 74, there will be concessions made and a solution that not every one is happy about will be found.......but it may take a long time.
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Re: The Land and those that build on it - Turkish Land

Postby paliometoxo » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:29 am

aussieturk wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
aussieturk wrote:The South talks about the Orams case and other land built on ion the North, but fails to talk about the Turkish Title land in the South.

In the South, land has been built on by Greeks, fortunates have been made, but will they be happy to give it up and compensate the rightful owners. My family had 50 acres in the South near Larnaca, my mothers village has been demolished and brand new houses have been built by Greek developers.

I wonder how much money I am owed as part of my inheritance?


You make a good point Aussie, But Let me say that the Turkish army forced the Greek cypriots of out their homes into the south side of cyprus from the north, so the Greek Cypriots had nowhere to go they HAD to move into these houses and use turkish cypriot land where as the tcs no one forced them to and infact lots of tcs still live in their homes in limassol and nicosia and other parts of cyprus living happily with gcs, well apart from gabira he or she is unhappy there or does not care. and the gcs are denied the right to go home.

so gcs really had no choice in the matter and you cant tell me you expect gcs to live on the streets?:)


I agree, the gcs had no choice, but either did the tcs as once the Island was partitioned, there was fear of persecution, so they had to move. All I am saying is that there is a lot of talk about the land in the North, but I read nothing about the land in the south that has now been developed and is worth a lot more than in the North and people have made millions from it.


Well they have no case simply because they regard the north as turkish and a separate state now nothing to do with the gcs, so they either would rather keep their property in the north have moved away and dont care.. many reasons.

You being one of them that has moved to australia for whatever reasons and say you have land in the south, what stops you from trying to sue or claim some money or even take your land back and move there or even sell it?
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Re: The Land and those that build on it - Turkish Land

Postby aussieturk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:33 am

paliometoxo wrote: You being one of them that has moved to australia for whatever reasons and say you have land in the south, what stops you from trying to sue or claim some money or even take your land back and move there or even sell it?


Its not realistic. Has any one from the North done that?
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:34 am

Epiktitos wrote:
aussieturk wrote: Land certainly is a sticking point - the tcnuland regime is stuck unable to give up their ill gotten gains because they know that any kind of equitable solution in line with UNSC resolutions and the EU acquis will require them to give up the bulk of what they've stolen in the occupied north in the exchange for significantly less in the free south.


True, but being realistic, Cyprus will never ever be the same as it was pre 74, there will be concessions made and a solution that not every one is happy about will be found.......but it may take a long time.


Good we don't want pre 74 because apparently and i was not alive in 74

But it was a bad time to be alive in cyprus from the violence between the sides..

so hopefully it will be a pre 74 situation in the fact that there will be no walls and officers asking for ids and no foreign troops. but not pre 74 in the fact that there will be a solution to make both sides happy and new blood to correct the mistakes of the elder people who some have to much hatred to ever be able to move forward.

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paliometoxo wrote: You being one of them that has moved to australia for whatever reasons and say you have land in the south, what stops you from trying to sue or claim some money or even take your land back and move there or even sell it?


Its not realistic. Has any one from the North done that?


not that i know of but they have their reasons im sure.. i dont know why i couldent tell you but i am guessing either lack of founds or happy in the north or they would rather swap land or exchange so many reasons why they might not want to.. and who knows there might of been some cases where it did not make the news i dont know.. maybe some one else here can tell us
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Postby aussieturk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:55 am

Get Real! wrote:
aussieturk wrote:Yeah, just a title showing 50 acres of land, probably not worth much over there in the South

Whatever you say… because the other day we had some other TC dude claiming to own half of Larnaca, and I just don’t know how the hell you’re all gonna squeeze into the 12.3% of land you owned combined! :lol:

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle11.htm


Lets see, 12.3% of the land = 280,958 acres, mmm not enough , yeah your right..............NOT
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