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[Daisy May]

I am not trying to shut her up i am just trying to get her and others to be polite and talk without swearing and screaming at each other. everyone is entitled to their opinion and she should voice them and have her say whatever she might be thinking.. be in a polite kind manner not f this and f you and you barbarians.. that way wont help her or him at all

Please point out where i have used any F words, or called anyone a barbarian...in fact, what makes you think i was screaming such hatred at all????

Maybe i didn't make it too clear...my post was simply moaning about all the whining!! I also said that nothing can be accomplished if all you do is claim complete innocence....which is quite simply not true...I also said it was mostly from only a few who post here....

But you see Daisy, the GC community has been protected from their past by not including anything they did to the TCs between 1960 and 1974. Their History books have 2 pages of information to cover 14 years of history of Cyprus. So you can understand when some truth comes out
they get a bit upset.

YFred i am aware of this, but what gets up my nose, is why don't they, the gc's, ever question this?....Are they maybe afraid of what their own people will say if they start questioning this...

[paliometoxo]

thats right Yfred. but we just have to work out our differences..
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No VP but turkey will not accept anything but partition, we are trying to convince turkey to allow a re unified cyprus to happen, its not our fault that turkey is playing difficult.. we dont want to wait forever either we want to get on with our lives and not waste it on this cyprus problem that should of been over decades ago <and GC hard liners should be convinced also..edit add that living together is a better option

... i do criticize my own side for putting so much love in the greek flag some of them thinking cyprus is greek saying stupid comments i do reply back to them i do its not just tcs ..I said lots of times the hardliners GC and tcs are whats causing the problems and NOT just tcs or turkey..

. i am to lazy to search through posts to quote you on them but i do .. not all the time but i do

It's really amusing seeing you all getting verbally nasty and spiteful...is it really that difficult to speak like a human being??

i really agreed with you here and think they should not have talked to you like that but then you said this...

think i've just got it....the more you spout this rubbish, the more you believe it....so go ahead, but i must warn you, you sound rather pathetic...as i'm sure a lot of CF readers think....you sound like a brainless chicken running around squawking!! ooooooo, who knew how much fun this would be!!

you provoke them and they attacked back.. i still think it was wrong to talk to you like that but you had to of expected some reaction.. you throw mud and then expected the gcs to say welcome we love you?

sorry Daisy.. i did not mean you saying the f this and swearing but accusing and saying its all our fault for the war and problems in cyprus.. and then your other posts saying we could of taken all of cyprus when the army men really dont know what they are doing..

[paliometoxo]

Thanks Fred i agree, thats why i carry on and if some one does not like it they don't have to read my posts

I like reading your posts, Palio. True, we don't agree on the Cyprus Problem, but at least we can talk about the issue without degenerating into abuse. In fact, it was you who made me aware that all alternatives should be looked at, so that I ended up not being completely closed off to any other avenue apart from partition.

Thank you Exapt i am Glad i helped you to be more open minded for solutions. I think that shouting abuse will never get us anywhere.

And then you came up with a very good unified state plan which i thought was very good.

we have differences such as the turkish flag but i still blame the hard liners for making the cyprus problem worse on both sides making it hard to reach a solution that it seems even vp would be open to if the terms where to be good, and they will, hopefully something tcs will find acceptable.

[Daisy May]

Provocation is provocation no matter how it is worded...therefore i apologise for this. It is hard to keep things from becoming accusatory with people like Get Real et al calling people the sort of names that they do. But i do think it's time for both sides to admit that what happened was wrong, and that both sides did atrocious things...until this happens there will be no peace in the valley, and this i find extremely upsetting. We are not our fathers, therefore we have it in us all to stop this mindless merry go round of accusing each other...and start to move forward instead of going round and round like dogs chasing their tails.

[Viewpoint]

Daisy May do you want to become a minority in a GC state run by GCs?

[Daisy May]

Furthermore i must also say Palio, i agree with expat in the fact that you have some very interesting things to say, unfortunately i seem to have gotten caught up in the slandering to actually post anything useful, shame on me, but i hope to rectify this soon. I look forward to reading more of what you and some others have to say on this situation.

[paliometoxo]

Provocation is provocation no matter how it is worded...therefore i apologise for this. It is hard to keep things from becoming accusatory with people like Get Real et al calling people the sort of names that they do. But i do think it's time for both sides to admit that what happened was wrong, and that both sides did atrocious things...until this happens there will be no peace in the valley, and this i find extremely upsetting. We are not our fathers, therefore we have it in us all to stop this mindless merry go round of accusing each other...and start to move forward instead of going round and round like dogs chasing their tails.

Well said Daisy, i know it seems obvious but your female right?

anyway its time to leave the past behind and move forward... leave behind the childishness and work on finding a solution otherwise we will be stuck like this forever and none of us want a non solution because the partition line will stay there and not only will gcs hate it but it will be more costly for turkey and also not being recognised. so we both lose that way

And Daisy i understand you completely if i was you i would of reacted to in the same manner, but the best thing to do is ignore it, i have done my fair share of mud throwing and cursing but what have i achieved by doing this? a big fat nothing.

dont worry about being accused of being English. it happens to many of us ;p well not me i have always been clearly a gc but others like expat and others like bannot they can tell you the same. but it passes

Do you stay in cyprus atm? or are you in the uk still?

[boulio]

WHo said g/c state and minorty?federal republic no vp?not confederation?still havent aswered any questions concerning turkish comprimises and if g/c would be able to vote in the north?not g/c but all EU CITIZENS OR will it be ethnically based?

PLease give us your idea of a Federal republic

You can even start your own thread "vp has a dream"and list to us your federal model for cyprus.Because it seems all you ever due is bash people who are trying to give opinions and peace plans a shot(Kikapu and older kifeas)so lets have it!

VP'S FEDERAL MODEL FOR CYPRUS............

[paliometoxo]

Daisy May do you want to become a minority in a GC state run by GCs?

we dont like the idea of partition any more then you like the idea of being a minority in a state run by us gcs.. that is why some of us hope to devise a plan that will enable us to re unite and not have this concern from the turkish cypriots about not being able to have any say or being thrown out by gcs..

your mind is so set on partition .. what happened before you said you would be open to unitary state if the plan was right?

[Daisy May]

Daisy May do you want to become a minority in a GC state run by GCs?

Good question, and ideally it would be great for everyone to just accept the past and move on...sadly i doubt this will happen anytime soon. So no, i would not like this situation knowing that the minorities would have just as difficult a time as they did in the 60's...that is not going forward that is going backward.
However...if we look at other countries with minorities..America, South Africa...even England, it can be done! It would definitely prove somewhat hard...but if the majority were to work hard at peace...then who knows....livivng together might just work!