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Complaints From the Turkish Cypriots

Postby boomerang » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:56 am

"Please tell the world that the TRNC is an open prison," Ahmet Barcin, president of the zone's secondary-school teachers' union, said. "It's one big, militarised zone and all the gates are locked. Our only key to freedom is a quick peace settlement [with the Greek south of the island], entry to the EU and reintegration with the rest of the world."

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/deliso9.html


someones penpall has been spreating fibes it seems...and the stupid swallowed line, hook and sinker...what?... :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:58 am

Northern Cypriots turn against TurkeyBuzz up!
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Helena Smith in Nicosia The Guardian, Tuesday 25 September 2001 18.36 BST Article historyFor the first time for at least 20 years the veteran Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktash is losing the confidence of his own people.
They blame him for blighting their hope of re-entering world society by joining the EU alongside Greek Cypriots, who could secure membership in 2003.

Poor and cut off because nobody but Turkey recognises the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), which Mr Denktash declared unilaterally in 1983, they are angry.

"Please tell the world that the TRNC is an open prison," Ahmet Barcin, president of the zone's secondary-school teachers' union, said.

"It's one big, militarised zone and all the gates are locked. Our only key to freedom is a quick peace settlement [with the Greek south of the island], entry to the EU and reintegration with the rest of the world."

The northerners are so angry at Mr Denktash's dogged dismissal of the EU membership process, his abandonment of the UN-brokered peace talks with the Greek Cypriots, and the arrival of Turkish settlers that they are beginning to do the unthinkable: turn against their protector Turkey.

The collapse of the dependency's banking system and the devaluation of the Turkish lira have brought many to the brink of penury. As the rebellious mood grows, so do the repressive measures of a regime desperate to keep the dissent at bay.

While Greek Cypriots have been told that they can join the EU without some form of reunification being on the cards, Brussels has made it clear that its final approval will be much smoother if it is.

But as Mr Denktash, 78, holds up a political settlement Turkish Cypriots, fearing that they have no future, are trying to get out. Applications for passports, which have to come from the internationally recognised Greek-Cypriot government, rose from 448 last year to 817 in the first half of this.

The social democrat Mustapha Akinci, who was the deputy prime minister until last May, and is now the main opposition leader, said: "This is not a democracy. How can it be, when Ankara intervenes so much in the running of our affairs?

"Turkey decides everything, down to who will run the fire brigade and our national airline. The army is in control here; even our police force falls under its command."

Northern Cyprus may look less like a garrison since Turkey put its 35,000 soldiers stationed on the island in civilian clothes when they are off duty, to avoid deterring tourists. But Turkish Cypriots are well aware of the army's presence, and they are worried that settlers brought in from Anatolia will soon outnumber the locals.

A recent report by the European parliament estimated that Turkish troops and immigrants now formed the majority of the 210,000 population, compared with about 90,000 native Turkish Cypriots.

But although the settlers tend to vote for Mr Denktash, some of them, especially the young, long for EU freedoms too.

"We are Anatolian settlers," Yigitler Burcu said. "We are curious to see how others live. We are curious to see the world. Only Turkey recognises our country. In my heart, like everyone else here, I am desperate to leave."

Most of the Turkish Cypriot opposition - parties, syndicates and NGOs - has united on a common platform as the Group of 41.

Alpay Durduran, a prominent opposition figure, said: "Please tell the world that we want to free ourselves from the people who freed us.

"We grew up under British colonial rule, not under the Turks, and we have a very different sense of democracy. There is no freedom here.

"People are too scared to speak up because of intimidation. Entire families have got death threats."

Mehmet Talat, who heads the Republican party, said: "You might say that while Turkey liberated us, it has overstayed its welcome. Denktash has been in power for nearly 30 years, but he's not defending the Turkish Cypriots: he is defending Turkey's strategic interests here."

In an interview, Mr Denktash denied that there was any ill-feeling, and that there was even an indigenous Turkish Cypriot culture.

"Those who are against Turkey are wrong. There is no Cypriot culture, apart from our national custom of drinking brandy. There are Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus, that's all," he snapped.

But last year tear gas was used in northern Nicosia to break up supporters of the Group of 41 demonstrating under the slogan "This is our country".

Not long after that the opposition newspaper Avrupa (Europe) was bombed, and there was a severe crackdown on all informal contacts with Greek Cypriots. "What's the point of such contacts?" Mr Denktash said. "I've heard the only thing people seem to do at these meetings is have sex."

This month the outgoing British high commissioner, Edward Clay, lashed out at the regime for "its crude attempt to enforce conformity and disable its critics by fair means and foul".

Particularly worrying, diplomats say, is Mr Denktash's open sponsorship of the National Patriotic Movement (UHH), created in response to the Group of 41. Its declared aim is to stamp out any criticism of Turkey by the "ungrateful traitors and spies".

Mr Denktash conceded that he had given the UHH "all [his] moral support" and rejected the suggestion that his legitimacy was being eroded by the growing opposition.

"The EU has a policy to give more importance to people who are against the establishment," he said. The international community was "working in a very intelligent way to divide our community".

"And they're doing a very good job", he added.

An island divided

1960 Cyprus becomes a republic independent of Britain. Greeks are meant to share power with Turks (18% of the population), with Archbishop Makarios as president

1963-1974 Violence between Greek and Turkish Cypriots

1974 Greek Cypriot rightwingers, supported by Athens, stage a coup aimed at making the island part of Greece. Turkey invades to stop this, and creates a separate zone in the north

1977 The Guardian reveals that immigrants from mainland Turkey are being encouraged to settle in northern Cyprus

1983 After 10 years of fruitless negotiations the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is proclaimed, recognised only by Ankara

1994 Cyprus applies to join the EU, although the Nicosia government has no control over Turkish Cypriots

2001 Cyprus is one of only two countries fulfilling all EU membership criteria

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/25/cyprus.helenasmith




hmmmm...what?... :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:00 am

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Thinking the Unthinkable

Yes, in fact, we can go one better, with the ultimate scenario that would give every Turkish leader an instant stroke – that is, the thought of Cyprus joining the Greek state,, This is admittedly a long shot of an option; but could a Greek-controlled Cyprus actually benefit Ankara?

First of all, such a capitulation on Turkey's part would of necessity engender a similarly major concession on the Greek side. If Turkey wanted, a guarantee of EU membership would be the absolute minimum required, and they would no doubt win additionally in trade concessions and other economic relief. The second reason why Turkey would benefit is that, as the past decade in the Balkans has shown, being an ethnic minority in someone else's country is much better than having an ethnic minority within one's own country. By championing the rights of the Turkish minority in Cyprus, Ankara would acquire greater leverage (indeed, it would gain practically a veto power on all policy decisions).

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Re: Complaints From the Turkish Cypriots

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:08 am

boomerang wrote:
"Please tell the world that the TRNC is an open prison," Ahmet Barcin, president of the zone's secondary-school teachers' union, said. "It's one big, militarised zone and all the gates are locked. Our only key to freedom is a quick peace settlement [with the Greek south of the island], entry to the EU and reintegration with the rest of the world."

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/deliso9.html


someones penpall has been spreating fibes it seems...and the stupid swallowed line, hook and sinker...what?... :lol:



Hucking Fell, What is it with 'what'? It must be contagious, what? :lol:

I think Yfredo should be banned for the overuse of 'What?' :lol: :lol:

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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:25 am

In my humble opinion, the kind of views you are quoting express the anger and frustration that fuelled the anti-Denktash mass rebellion of 2002-2003. From my own personal observations, attitudes have hardened a great deal since then in the Turkish Cypriot community.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:41 am

yeah that might be true Tim, but because their standard of living has risen...

a couple of factors could have played
1...employment in the free areas
2...wholesale of GC properties...
3...more freedom within the EU, passports and travel

having tasted freedom, money and having short term vision...
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:50 am

boomerang wrote:yeah that might be true Tim, but because their standard of living has risen...

a couple of factors could have played
1...employment in the free areas
2...wholesale of GC properties...
3...more freedom within the EU, passports and travel

having tasted freedom, money and having short term vision...


There is a deal of truth in what you say. There is also a feeling of bitterness among people who took to the streets to oust Denktash in support of reunification and EU membership and now feel betrayed.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:04 am

I remember the days when the plan was unvelied everyone was saying it was doomed...so the only betrayal came from turkey wanted too much...again short sighted vision...

ousting the donkey is one, but expecting an unfair plan to succeed was another...

here is one...why not demand a fair plan and see how far they go...coz they way i see it, the tcs work in the free areas, shop in the free areas, and get freedom in the free areas, via roc passports...not mentioning free health concerns which they get in the free areas...so where exactly is the bitterness...but most importantly who is the instigator of the bitterness?...
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:38 am

Please do not misunderstand me, I am not trying to engage in a petty point scoring session about the Annan Plan referendum. I am simply trying to describe the shift in sentiment that I sense even among left-wing Turkish Cypriots since the heady days of 2002-2003.

There is an interesting book written by two Greek Cypriot academics, Themos Dimitriu and Sotiris Vlahos, which attempts to analyse the rise and fall of the spectacular popular rebellion that ousted Denktash and was then derailed.

The orginal title of the book is η προδομένη εξέγερση (The Betrayed Rebellion), and the Turkish translation of this book was a mini best seller. I have the Turkish version of this book, and I think that chapter 9, whose title is "Talat Postpones the Rebellion" is the most interesting part of the book. One has to ask why Talat took the decision in 2003 to withdraw his party from the "This Country is Ours" platform, which had staged the rebellion, and for his party to contest the 2003 elections on its own. It is curious that since that day, Talat has come increasingly to resemble Denktash. There is a lot more to this than simply the Annan Plan.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:45 am

yeah a continuation of a shitty propaganda campaign directed by the puppetmeisters...
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