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[Oracle]

Get Real, do you fully understand what serfdom is? And what implications its undoing by the Ottomans had on the Cypriot community? When you understand these you will get my point.

At least the Venetians allowed Greeks of the time to help continue to govern the country.

Serfdom was a sign of the times; a step up from the previous few thousand years of slavery. The Ottomans had nothing to do with instigating its removal, as happened elsewhere in Europe, but on the contrary the Ottomans were responsible for replacing serfdom with a different form of oppression. What the Ottomans replaced it with in Cyprus was even worse. Eternal slavery! Continual taxation, imprisonment and death for non-compliance. When they killed too many Greeks, they imported more slaves from Africa.

What you have now replaced that slavery with is monumental times worse and throws humanity backwards with untold damage for future reconciliations.

You were and are without exaggeration a blight on humanity. Change your ways!

[Get Real!]

Get Real, do you fully understand what serfdom is? And what implications its undoing by the Ottomans had on the Cypriot community? When you understand these you will get my point.

What difference does it make if you call it the “millet” system or the “feudal” system? At the end of the day they all come under the plunder system and this was the tragic end result…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle04.htm

[halil]

"Before 1974 it was no good. In the village we had two ­quarters, one for them, one for us. There was one church and one mosque. There were two separate schools. There was no co-operation, no visiting. There were terrible feuds. It's better now.

"The Greeks don't like us and we don't like them. We need to have separate states, though of course it would be good to have a better atmosphere," he said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ja ... -greece-un


What thoughtless reportage.

So, everything was "separate" before 1974 and everything is "separate" now.

And, what makes this "separation" better now?

I don't know if people were hating each other or not but it was true TC's and GC's had always seperate head quarters in Cyprus .

Most of the people are tried to build up their houses where their own community was in majority. From this reasone there was always TC's and GC's sectores in the cities and villages. We can see these sectors very easily in Nicosia,Kyrenia,Limassol,Larnaka,Paphos also in small villages.

[DT.]

"Before 1974 it was no good. In the village we had two ­quarters, one for them, one for us. There was one church and one mosque. There were two separate schools. There was no co-operation, no visiting. There were terrible feuds. It's better now.

"The Greeks don't like us and we don't like them. We need to have separate states, though of course it would be good to have a better atmosphere," he said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ja ... -greece-un


What thoughtless reportage.

So, everything was "separate" before 1974 and everything is "separate" now.

And, what makes this "separation" better now?

I don't know if people were hating each other or not but it was true TC's and GC's had always seperate head quarters in Cyprus .

Most of the people are tried to build up their houses where their own community was in majority. From this reasone there was always TC's and GC's sectores in the cities and villages. We can see these sectors very easily in Nicosia,Kyrenia,Limassol,Larnaka,Paphos also in small villages.

not in morphou.

[Expatkiwi]

not in morphou.

Why was Morphou different?

[DT.]

not in morphou.

Why was Morphou different?

Normal people too busy with growing citrus. Even on the towns saint day Ayios Mamas, the TC's would also pay their respects in his name.

[denizaksulu]

"Before 1974 it was no good. In the village we had two ­quarters, one for them, one for us. There was one church and one mosque. There were two separate schools. There was no co-operation, no visiting. There were terrible feuds. It's better now.

"The Greeks don't like us and we don't like them. We need to have separate states, though of course it would be good to have a better atmosphere," he said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ja ... -greece-un


What thoughtless reportage.

So, everything was "separate" before 1974 and everything is "separate" now.

And, what makes this "separation" better now?

I don't know if people were hating each other or not but it was true TC's and GC's had always seperate head quarters in Cyprus .

Most of the people are tried to build up their houses where their own community was in majority. From this reasone there was always TC's and GC's sectores in the cities and villages. We can see these sectors very easily in Nicosia,Kyrenia,Limassol,Larnaka,Paphos also in small villages.

not in morphou.

Nor Anglisidhes.

[Oracle]

"Before 1974 it was no good. In the village we had two ­quarters, one for them, one for us. There was one church and one mosque. There were two separate schools. There was no co-operation, no visiting. There were terrible feuds. It's better now.

"The Greeks don't like us and we don't like them. We need to have separate states, though of course it would be good to have a better atmosphere," he said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ja ... -greece-un


What thoughtless reportage.

So, everything was "separate" before 1974 and everything is "separate" now.

And, what makes this "separation" better now?

I don't know if people were hating each other or not but it was true TC's and GC's had always seperate head quarters in Cyprus .

Most of the people are tried to build up their houses where their own community was in majority. From this reasone there was always TC's and GC's sectores in the cities and villages. We can see these sectors very easily in Nicosia,Kyrenia,Limassol,Larnaka,Paphos also in small villages.

Any separations were of TCs choosing. You didn't have to have separate schools. But, then you never wanted to mix with non-Muslims. Too used to ruling over us, you never did accept equality. But I do believe given time, you would have come down to our level. Living ordinary, simple lives of schooling and working for the good of Cyprus instead of Turkey and your Ottoman habits.

I've told you before, the midwife who delivered me was TC. She lived in our village, along with other TCs. From what I know, the GCs went about their normal lives, ignorant of the fact that TCs still harboured dreams of a separate state within Cyprus. That was NEVER a dream of GCs ... to live separately.

These people being interviewed are probably settlers ... prepared to lie to save their "new found country". They will say anything to keep what they have freely gotten off the GCs. Envy is a nasty thing ....

[Expatkiwi]

not in morphou.

Why was Morphou different?

Normal people too busy with growing citrus. Even on the towns saint day Ayios Mamas, the TC's would also pay their respects in his name.

Sounds like the exception to the rule. Pity about that. If that sentiment was more widespread, there would never have been a Cyprus problem.

[Tim Drayton]

not in morphou.

Why was Morphou different?

Normal people too busy with growing citrus. Even on the towns saint day Ayios Mamas, the TC's would also pay their respects in his name.

Sounds like the exception to the rule. Pity about that. If that sentiment was more widespread, there would never have been a Cyprus problem.

I recommend that you spend some time and effort seeking out people who used to live in mixed villages and talk to them about life there before conflict erupted. You would discover that this was the rule, not the exception.