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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:03 am

Georgios Nakratzas, is a well known anti-Greek author…

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4149/14810304qe9.jpg

…often used by Turks in their propaganda…

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/genocide-greek.htm

This reinforces once again the need to avoid UNAUTHORIZED INDIVIDUALS as a reference because we may not know his/her past.

Technical reporting Vs Creative writing
http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle29.htm
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:12 am

umit07 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote: ... As I said,even if these poor sods came back to life and told you how they were murdered in cold blood,you will ask them to back up their claim with credible links....


Why would I do that? It would be their testimony.

Right now, it is you who claims to know for a "fact", what to the rest of us is only a mystery, from who I request some backing evidence. I have kindly asked you, many times now, for your source or original point of reference.

In the absence of any qualifiers, it's conclusive that this is more Turk-TC exaggerated mischief.


Okey,I will give you one more chance ,Oracle...
If you dismiss this one as "more Turk-Tc exaggerated mischief" then there will no point talking to you again....

http://www.yellowdocuments.com/18244707 ... istence-of



Jeezuz man,

the link doesnt work Bir. Is it incomplete or does it work for other forumers?


It works Denz, you just need the latest version of adobe flash player to view it.



Thanks, just down loaded vers. 9.3. Still will not open. Therefore its goodnight from me. :twisted:

Perhaps someone can cut and paste.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:19 am

Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote: ... As I said,even if these poor sods came back to life and told you how they were murdered in cold blood,you will ask them to back up their claim with credible links....


Why would I do that? It would be their testimony.

Right now, it is you who claims to know for a "fact", what to the rest of us is only a mystery, from who I request some backing evidence. I have kindly asked you, many times now, for your source or original point of reference.

In the absence of any qualifiers, it's conclusive that this is more Turk-TC exaggerated mischief.


Okey,I will give you one more chance ,Oracle...
If you dismiss this one as "more Turk-Tc exaggerated mischief" then there will no point talking to you again....

http://www.yellowdocuments.com/18244707 ... istence-of

Nakratzas is rubbish, and you are even more rubbish for failing to study and supply credible evidence…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle01.htm

But what can one expect from a Turkish Cypriot?


What an arrogant,predictable,hypocritical sod... :lol: :lol:
He dismisses an independent source and sends us to his own website!!! :lol:

Shall we say "What can we expect form a wretched Choikitirian"???

Because I can't bring myself to say "What can one expect from a Greek Cypriot"...I know too many decent,honorable ones..
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:21 am

you missed my post bir...care to comment on it?...or you consider it propaganda as well... :wink:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:33 am

boomerang wrote:it works deniz...but a lot of inaccuracies...i let bir point them out...lets see how fair he is


I see no inaccuracies,boomers...Why don't you take enough time out from your insults and name calling to tell us what you think they are... :idea:
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:39 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
boomerang wrote:it works deniz...but a lot of inaccuracies...i let bir point them out...lets see how fair he is


I see no inaccuracies,boomers...Why don't you take enough time out from your insults and name calling to tell us what you think they are... :idea:


coz bir for any article that is for a for there is one that is against...they all biased in some way...no article written by an outsider would be 100% accurate...you point to one article and piratis will point to 100...thus the dog chasing his tail...i would have thought as a smart cookie you would have conned on to it by now... :wink:

but you failed to comment on my previous post above...and here it is again...

boomerang wrote:let me say this...you will never fiind out about the truth...it has to come within...every report is a one way stream...the truth and the re-writing of events will only come from a reconciliation committee and for that to happen you need democracy, human rights and the rule of law...ensuring justice for all...

but again, a fascist doens't know what he is talking about, hey bir?....


can't get any fairer than this bir...

and regarding insults it is you that started calling me a fascist while on the other hand you are now supporting a fascist regime with your apologetic attitude...

i will never endorse a fascist regime or fascist attitudes, while on the other hand can't say the same about you...

fascism should be ridiculed and fought, not endorsed...and that is what i have been doing...you resulted to drama queen antics to endorse fascism with apologies...see the difference between me and you... :wink:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:40 am

boomerang wrote:let me say this...you will never fiind out about the truth...it has to come within...every report is a one way stream...the truth and the re-writing of events will only come from a reconciliation committee and for that to happen you need democracy, human rights and the rule of law...ensuring justice for all...

but again, a fascist doens't know what he is talking about, hey bir?....


You are putting the cart before the horse,mate...Before the TCs will trust your democracy and human rights appeals,they have to be convinced that you really mean it...By all means let us have the Truth and Reconciliation commission now,to get to the bottom of who did what to whom and when...But you can't even read the document I posted with an open mind...It has to be full of inaccuracies and lies,simply because it says things you don't want to hear...Don't you ever ask me find proof of this or that again...so that you can dismiss it like Tiberius (with a keyboard) out of hand... :twisted:
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:46 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
boomerang wrote:let me say this...you will never fiind out about the truth...it has to come within...every report is a one way stream...the truth and the re-writing of events will only come from a reconciliation committee and for that to happen you need democracy, human rights and the rule of law...ensuring justice for all...

but again, a fascist doens't know what he is talking about, hey bir?....


You are putting the cart before the horse,mate...Before the TCs will trust your democracy and human rights appeals,they have to be convinced that you really mean it...By all means let us have the Truth and Reconciliation commission now,to get to the bottom of who did what to whom and when...But you can't even read the document I posted with an open mind...It has to be full of inaccuracies and lies,simply because it says things you don't want to hear...Don't you ever ask me find proof of this or that again...so that you can dismiss it like Tiberius (with a keyboard) out of hand... :twisted:


this is the 21st century mate and not the 15th century...no one needs convincing...the proof is in the pudding...unless of cource you think the EU project is something out of year one...

regarding the article?...who said is 100% accurate when it is written by an outsider?...there thousands written on cyprus...are they all correct?...propaganda from your part i am afraid...

again you are looking at the tree while i am looking at the forrest...
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:24 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote: ... As I said,even if these poor sods came back to life and told you how they were murdered in cold blood,you will ask them to back up their claim with credible links....


Why would I do that? It would be their testimony.

Right now, it is you who claims to know for a "fact", what to the rest of us is only a mystery, from who I request some backing evidence. I have kindly asked you, many times now, for your source or original point of reference.

In the absence of any qualifiers, it's conclusive that this is more Turk-TC exaggerated mischief.


Okey,I will give you one more chance ,Oracle...
If you dismiss this one as "more Turk-Tc exaggerated mischief" then there will no point talking to you again....

http://www.yellowdocuments.com/18244707 ... istence-of

Nakratzas is rubbish, and you are even more rubbish for failing to study and supply credible evidence…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle01.htm

But what can one expect from a Turkish Cypriot?


What an arrogant,predictable,hypocritical sod... :lol: :lol:
He dismisses an independent source and sends us to his own website!!! :lol:

Shall we say "What can we expect form a wretched Choikitirian"???

Because I can't bring myself to say "What can one expect from a Greek Cypriot"...I know too many decent,honorable ones..

Here’s the difference between an independent source (Nakratzias) and a credible source (the UN)…

Consider an ex-convict living in Alaska who decides to go political and starts writing up articles in favor of the Tamil Tigers. Now he could easily be classified as an “independent source” but is he also a credible source?

Of course not… he’s just an idiot looking for attention!

You should know better Bir...
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:55 am

Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote: ... As I said,even if these poor sods came back to life and told you how they were murdered in cold blood,you will ask them to back up their claim with credible links....


Why would I do that? It would be their testimony.

Right now, it is you who claims to know for a "fact", what to the rest of us is only a mystery, from who I request some backing evidence. I have kindly asked you, many times now, for your source or original point of reference.

In the absence of any qualifiers, it's conclusive that this is more Turk-TC exaggerated mischief.


Okey,I will give you one more chance ,Oracle...
If you dismiss this one as "more Turk-Tc exaggerated mischief" then there will no point talking to you again....

http://www.yellowdocuments.com/18244707 ... istence-of

Nakratzas is rubbish, and you are even more rubbish for failing to study and supply credible evidence…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle01.htm

But what can one expect from a Turkish Cypriot?


What an arrogant,predictable,hypocritical sod... :lol: :lol:
He dismisses an independent source and sends us to his own website!!! :lol:

Shall we say "What can we expect form a wretched Choikitirian"???

Because I can't bring myself to say "What can one expect from a Greek Cypriot"...I know too many decent,honorable ones..

Here’s the difference between an independent source (Nakratzias) and a credible source (the UN)…

Consider an ex-convict living in Alaska who decides to go political and starts writing up articles in favor of the Tamil Tigers. Now he could easily be classified as an “independent source” but is he also a credible source?

Of course not… he’s just an idiot looking for attention!

You should know better Bir...


Well..why don't you go through the document and find the parts you find objectionable or inaccurate,and prove to us they are so with your "credible" links...Instead of taking the easy way and dismissing everything out of hand...You have become a joke,GR! No Turkish or TC source is realiable,no independent source is reliable,only those UN sources you approve of are credible and reliable...Not to forget your own site... :lol:
The game is up,mate..Your blatant attempts to silence and intimidate people are becoming predictable and boring...Time for you to change tactics...Why don't you tell us a bit about how you feel regarding Enosis with Greece,and the coup against Makarios??? You might find some of us might even agree with you.. :wink:
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