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[Bananiot]

I see ...

[2fan]

The politicians have proven that are not able to solve it, but the people are able if they overcome national pride and look history eyeball to eyeball with a humble spirit.[/quote]



That's what I've been saying all along. Good work with the documentary.

[blackley]

Regards Tony Angastiniotis' book and film, I have just published a 440-page fictional novel titled Love and Death in Cyprus. It covers the years 1950-1975 in the UK, Cyprus, Turkey and Australia. While the story of Leyla and her struggle to survive in Cyprus is told from a Turkish Cypriot point of view it does not shy away from the fact that in war atriocities occur and as Leyla says, "men become animals and women are the ones to suffer"
The book is available on www.lovedeathcyprus.com

[Agios Amvrosios]

go and peddle your propaganda some where else

[ManoWAR]

My book will be published with the second documentary by next week and I will release information to you

Very clever advertisement of your book!

[ManoWAR]

The politicians have proven that are not able to solve it, but the people are able if they overcome national pride and look history eyeball to eyeball with a humble spirit.

Undoubtedly, you have overcame your national pride (if you ever had any) Mr. Agastiniotis.
Now look history eyeball to eyeball with a humble spirit and tell us how the hell, can the simple citizens solve the Cyprus problem.
Can they move the Turkish troops out of the island?

[blackley]

Agios Amvrosios wrote
(go and peddle your propaganda some where else)
How do you know that it is propaganda until you read the book. A GC lawyer said that he found nothing offensive in the book and in fact he learned a great deal about the years 1950-1975 in Cyprus.

[Nikiforos]

Angastiniotis, I seriously question your motives and view you as little more than a propaganda tool for the Turks.

It is outrageous and very disturbing that you have chosen to work at Eastern Mediterranean University (EMU) which the Turks use internationally as an instrument for spreading their lies about Cyprus.

Last year there was a big scandal involving the President of Central Connecticut State University (CCSU), Richard L. Judd. CCSU is located in New Britain, Connecticut, USA. CCSU has maintained an exchange student relationship with EMU for many years (despite protests from many Greek-Americans.)

Judd wrote another opinion piece for The Hartford Courant newspaper in February 2004. It was one of the most biased pro-Turkish articles that I have ever seen published in an American newspaper during the 31 years of the Turkish occupation. It contained several significant factual inaccuraccies. Most shockingly, about 50% of his article was plagiarized-word-for-word - from other sources. Most of the plagiarized material came directly from the website maintained by the so-called "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus." His Op-Ed piece gave exclusively the Turkish version of Cypriot history. His plagiarism was dicovered by an alert reader. Judd resigned from the presidency before the Board of Trustees were to meet to decide his fate.

One of the most virulent anti-Greek Cypriot professors in the USA works at CCSU and also has a strong relationship with EMU. His name is Norton Mezvinsky. Last year during the scandal invovlving Judd, a local newspaper The Herald (New Britain) quoted Mezvinsky as saying the GC's committed ethnic cleansing. He of course never mentioned the invasion and occupation of Cyprus by Turkey and never mentioned Turkish atrocities.

EMU holds both Judd and Mezvinsky in the highest esteem and has, I believe, bestowed an honor on Judd.

To a great extent you are judged from the friends (and colleagues) that you associate with. While on an intellectual level it is admirable to seek the truth and point out wrongdoing by both sides in the conflict, you are foolish and naive to think that your fellow professors at EMU do the same. The fact that you teach at EMU gives fuel to the Turks and their supporters in the USA. You should know that a significant number of American academics (maybe a majority) are very pro-Turkish.

[cypezokyli]

I seriously question your motives

what do u think are his motives?

on an intellectual level it is admirable to seek the truth and point out wrongdoing by both sides in the conflict

is his motive the truth or not?

and is it only on intellectual level admirable to seek the truth?
not on political?
not on historical?
not on ethical?
not on human?

we reached a point were truth does not matter anymore. what it matters is who sais it or even worse if it suits our interests (obviously not the intellectual ones)

if you have any documents which show that angastaniotis documentary is wrong, then please make them known also to us. if it is sth that happened, then it shouldnt bother us even if it used by the turkish propaganda.

is not that difficult to say, we are sorry. it was wrong.
but we have changed. (have we?)

To a great extent you are judged from the friends (and colleagues) that you associate with

and his work is suddenly completely irrelevant?

[2fan]

Angastiniotis, I seriously question your motives and view you as little more than a propaganda tool for the Turks.

Why? Because he chose not to serve your propaganda aparatus?

It is outrageous and very disturbing that you have chosen to work at Eastern Mediterranean University (EMU) which the Turks use internationally as an instrument for spreading their lies about Cyprus.

It is not any of your business where a person choses to make his living. Please provide sources for you accusations that EMU is spreading "LIES".

Last year there was a big scandal involving the President of Central Connecticut State University (CCSU), Richard L. Judd. CCSU is located in New Britain, Connecticut, USA. CCSU has maintained an exchange student relationship with EMU for many years (despite protests from many Greek-Americans.)

Judd wrote another opinion piece for The Hartford Courant newspaper in February 2004. It was one of the most biased pro-Turkish articles that I have ever seen published in an American newspaper during the 31 years of the Turkish occupation. It contained several significant factual inaccuraccies. Most shockingly, about 50% of his article was plagiarized-word-for-word - from other sources. Most of the plagiarized material came directly from the website maintained by the so-called "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus." His Op-Ed piece gave exclusively the Turkish version of Cypriot history. His plagiarism was dicovered by an alert reader. Judd resigned from the presidency before the Board of Trustees were to meet to decide his fate.

One of the most virulent anti-Greek Cypriot professors in the USA works at CCSU and also has a strong relationship with EMU. His name is Norton Mezvinsky. Last year during the scandal invovlving Judd, a local newspaper The Herald (New Britain) quoted Mezvinsky as saying the GC's committed ethnic cleansing.

Did you not? Grivas, Sampson Makarios Enosis? I suppose these people and notions were saints in your opinion. Show me one single source of proof that the Turks were the first to attack Greeks and cleanse the island of greeks in the recent history of the island. Whatever the Turks did was REACTIONARY. YOU were the ones that wanted the Turks out and union with Greece. Your priests, for Christ's sake, even took up the sword against Turks. Moreover, you don't mention the atrocities comitted by greeks on peace loving greeks.

He of course never mentioned the invasion and occupation of Cyprus by Turkey and never mentioned Turkish atrocities.

Turkey invaded legally as a guaranteur power and NEVER annexed northern Cyprus.

EMU holds both Judd and Mezvinsky in the highest esteem and has, I believe, bestowed an honor on Judd.

To a great extent you are judged from the friends (and colleagues) that you associate with. While on an intellectual level it is admirable to seek the truth and point out wrongdoing by both sides in the conflict, you are foolish and naive to think that your fellow professors at EMU do the same. The fact that you teach at EMU gives fuel to the Turks and their supporters in the USA. You should know that a significant number of American academics (maybe a majority) are very pro-Turkish.

Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the world is finally waking up to the utter lies that fanatic greeks and armenians are spreading and have been spreading about the Turks for nearly a century? You are blind as a bat. Poor innocent Greeks. Such a peace loving race that has been victimized for so long. You are so used to the fact that we have been turning the other cheek for so long that you can't stand it now that we are doing something about it. Stop listening to your one sided accounts of your ancestors and educate your self on actual history. Perhaps you can learn something and bring something to the table to negotiate a plan where the island can be re-unified. Until you do, stop ranting and raving.