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[metecyp]

But my point is that there are 2 sides of the story, both sides have harmed the other, that’s why I said both sides need to make steps of reconciliation. If 74 was the beginning of all the conflict then what you are saying would be 100% correct but unfortunately it is not.

Well, said.

When I was in Cyprus last May, I've heard about 2 TCs who left lots of land in Larnaca and Pafos. On the Larnaca land, there are hotels built. On the Pafos land, there are 2 factories built...I don't remember the hotels but the factories were built in 1976 (right after 1974). These hotels have been used by GCs to serve to rich Europeans...these factories have been used to manufacture and export stuff to Europe since 1976. Why is it that a GC can use a TC land in the south and profit from it while a TC has to suffer under embargoes for doing the same thing in the north?

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[gabaston]

metecyp

i know of a tc lady who has had 400 homes built on her fields in the south.

what is going on?

Are they or are they not building on tc land?

[metecyp]

metecyp

i know of a tc lady who has had 400 homes built on her fields in the south.

what is going on?

Are they or are they not building on tc land?

They're building on the TC land since 1974, my friend. If a TC wants to get his compensation, he's always given the same answer: "RoC is taking care of your land/house, this will be settled after the solution". So it's perfectly fine for GCs to use the TC lands/houses and this is all fine and legal but we have to suffer under embargoes...And as if this is not enough, we get blamed for imposing the embargo on ourselves!! And we're supposed to trust these people. You know it's like a soap opera. I don't know if I should laugh or cry...

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[DigenisAkritas]

Post removed by erolz. Offensive personal attack and also libelous - which is against the law in the RoC and hence not acceptable here. Please stay within the forums rules if wish to participate. Thank you.

[metecyp]

post edited by erolz. please try not to respond to extremist post in kind. thank you

It's people like you from both sides that are keeping ordinary moderate Cypriots enjoying their lives together...

[DigenisAkritas]

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A 'Moderate' TC is someone who wants 50% of the seats in a Parliament, 50% of Presidential Council, FULL right of return for Mongolian Turks and only 25% Right of Return for Cypriots returning to their houses occupied by Mongolians. Yep, some 'Moderate', you know full well no self respecting Greek is going to sign on the dotted line for that shit.

[MicAtCyp]

They're building on the TC land since 1974, my friend.

No! That's wrong. In 1974 the situation was a chaos.Yes refugees had no other option than take whatever empty TC houses were inhabitable and live in them. Some people builted something in empty TC land without permit.One can spot those specific buildings just by looking at them. How? The are all made with cheap prefab material that would cost a tiny fraction of a regular building. Why? Because they know they are illegal and one day they will have to knock them down. All these illegalities occured until the RoC started getting out of the chaos caused by the 1974 "peaceful operation" and voted the Law of the Guardian of TC properties.

I don't exclude the possibility of some cases when they built a real solid building like a hotel or a factory that worths the value of its land multiple times. All those buildings however are illegal and none has the necessary licences. Thus it cannot even be sold. But thats not the rule.

On the Larnaca land, there are hotels built. On the Pafos land, there are 2 factories built...I don't remember the hotels but the factories were built in 1976 (right after 1974).

You have to remember the names of the hotels if we are going to give you a sensible answer. Besides we did not steal any of your hotels.We builted our own!

So it's perfectly fine for GCs to use the TC lands/houses and this is all fine and legal but we have to suffer under embargoes...

You suffer because you got 3 times as much land and properties than what you left behind and 20 times as much in value. Only the rent of what you grabbed is not enough to balance what you abandoned and which of course you are not very willing to come back and re-get. Very understandable why you don't want to come back, you are not crazy-20 times as much ain’t nothing! You suffer because you impose isolation on yourselves thinking you would enjoy what you grabbed freely without problems.

And we're supposed to trust these people.

Trust and trust and trust... Did you ever ask yourselves how much we can trust you seeing your intentions for 31 years now? Or you think we are blind and stupid?

[erolz]

Besides we did not steal any of your hotels.We builted our own!

That's because we had hardly any hotels, as 'sub citizens' do you have any idea of how difficult it was for a TC to own and build a hotle in the 60's to 74? How many GC imposed hoops had to be jumped through?

You suffer because you got 3 times as much land and properties than what you left behind and 20 times as much in value.

What is so confusing to me about this is that if we got 3 times the amount and 20 times the value why are we about 1/3 as wealthy as GC? Maybe the answer lies in the difference between what the 'state' (TRNC) got and what indivdual TC got?

[DigenisAkritas]

Trust and trust and trust... Did you ever ask yourselves how much we can trust you seeing your intentions for 31 years now? Or you think we are blind and stupid?

Well said my friend, I hear this 'trust' of GC's all the time, did they (TCs) ever seem to ponder that we don't trust them or Turkish Army?

[gabaston]

you dont trust us, and we dont trust you.


Does that sound like a good basis on which to build a single country?