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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:25 pm

Well, if nothing else, this case does prove that the prive motivation by the GC's for reunification is NOT reconciliation with their estranged Turkish Cypriot brethern, but ONLY to get the land in the north, and without the reconciliation part, there is not going to be much reciprical spirit in the north... This is only going to make things worse.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:56 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:Well, if nothing else, this case does prove that the prive motivation by the GC's for reunification is NOT reconciliation with their estranged Turkish Cypriot brethern, but ONLY to get the land in the north,

Well I'll be damned! That's news to me... :?

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

In case you’ve missed it, the above resolutions imply that the RoC GETS the occupied land back under its rightful control.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:48 pm

Get Real! wrote:Well I'll be damned! That's news to me... :?

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

In case you’ve missed it, the above resolutions imply that the RoC GETS the occupied land back under its rightful control.


And to hell with the Turkish Cypriots, right? And you almost had me convinced that you wanted reconciliation without either Greek or Turkish interference....
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:01 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Well I'll be damned! That's news to me... :?

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

In case you’ve missed it, the above resolutions imply that the RoC GETS the occupied land back under its rightful control.


And to hell with the Turkish Cypriots, right? And you almost had me convinced that you wanted reconciliation without either Greek or Turkish interference....

That's something you've thrown in to sensationalize the otherwise very clear political situation. :roll:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:49 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Well, if nothing else, this case does prove that the prive motivation by the GC's for reunification is NOT reconciliation with their estranged Turkish Cypriot brethern, but ONLY to get the land in the north, and without the reconciliation part, there is not going to be much reciprical spirit in the north... This is only going to make things worse.


Gooooodmorniiiing....

Haven't I told you the Cyprus problem started as another problem and today is by 90% a matter of properties? And please just open your eyes and realize it's a matter of taking back (for the GCs) and a matter of keeping the stolen (for the TCs). Truth is there are some other goodies for exchange too..
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:31 pm

WAKE UP PYRO....
It's not about TCs keeping, stolen lands, it's about TCs having their constitution stolen from them!
It's about TCs being able to get their rights to their land!
It's about TCs being willing to exchange their lands in the south for lands in the north!
Remember, the Annan plan had restitution rights for all Cypriots. ROC courts have only one customer - Greek Cypriots!

PULL THE OTHER ONE. Find someone more guliable, that will buy the lies that are posted about who stole who's lands!!

Note: UN Resolution 361

Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements.

At the end of this the UK has put in motion a move that will end both the RoC and TRNC in their current combative form. It's logical conclusion will be either a virgin birth or a complete recognised partition.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:44 pm

Acikgoz wrote:It's not about TCs keeping, stolen lands, it's about TCs having their constitution stolen from them!

You mean the constitution that Turkish Cypriots abandoned, declared null & void, and violated with the establishment of the “TRNC constitution”?

Having second thoughts about your stupidities now are we…

It's about TCs being able to get their rights to their land!

Thanks to the Greek Cypriots, the Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service ensures them:

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenschart ... enDocument

…but what about the GC properties? What have you done with them?

It's about TCs being willing to exchange their lands in the south for lands in the north!

It sounds like you’ve exchanged your brain for a pea… :?

For your info, there are 4 times as many GC refugees (185,000) than TC refugees (45,000) so how can a “exchange” ever take place? :lol:

Unless of course you’re thinking… “I’ve got mine don’t worry about his!” :wink:
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:58 pm

GR stop preaching to the ill informed. It has oft been discussed along with property exchange there would be land transfered to GC state for management under bi-zonality.

I have screwed the GC argument about land theft - survey after survey have shown people do not want to wholesale move from their properties - major reason why land swaps were inclusive and believed workable - if you look at what reasons were given for not voting for the Annan plan, right to move to the home left behind was not up there!

GR - say it like it is, we all know distorting the realities is second nature to most GCs that participate on this forum - at least as I've said before you don't deny you do it.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:24 pm

Acikgoz wrote:WAKE UP PYRO....
It's not about TCs keeping, stolen lands, it's about TCs having their constitution stolen from them!
It's about TCs being able to get their rights to their land!
It's about TCs being willing to exchange their lands in the south for lands in the north!
Remember, the Annan plan had restitution rights for all Cypriots. ROC courts have only one customer - Greek Cypriots!

PULL THE OTHER ONE. Find someone more guliable, that will buy the lies that are posted about who stole who's lands!!

Note: UN Resolution 361

Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements.

At the end of this the UK has put in motion a move that will end both the RoC and TRNC in their current combative form. It's logical conclusion will be either a virgin birth or a complete recognised partition.


I usually reply in detail to posts even if they are half stupid. Yours is not. :P
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:39 pm

Acikgoz wrote:GR stop preaching to the ill informed. It has oft been discussed along with property exchange there would be land transfered to GC state for management under bi-zonality.

I have screwed the GC argument about land theft - survey after survey have shown people do not want to wholesale move from their properties - major reason why land swaps were inclusive and believed workable - if you look at what reasons were given for not voting for the Annan plan, right to move to the home left behind was not up there!

GR - say it like it is, we all know distorting the realities is second nature to most GCs that participate on this forum - at least as I've said before you don't deny you do it.

:? Better let others debate on your behalf who make sense and can address the basic issues I presented you with.

There’s no need for you to post in the CyProb anymore, so just run along and thanks for your time.
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