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Postby Malapapa » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:13 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
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Malapapa wrote:Here we go....

http://www.cypyp.com/yellowg.htm

GR! Do you know the best way to send a mass email on behalf of CF members once the wording is agreed?



What CF members are you talking about?


Who agree with the wording of the letter of course. What CF members are you talking about?


I dont particularly remember being consulted about any letter, and you have a cheek to represent all CF forumers. Give us a break will you. :roll:


Then it will only represent those who agree with the letter. You give me a break.

denizaksulu wrote:Who gave you the mandate for such a thing. I do not believe this is the way democracy works.


Please explain which part of the letter you don't like and why and I'll consider amending it for future correspondence.


You miss my point. You should have sought the mandate before you claim that you are acting on behalf of the CF'ers. Get it? :roll:


No. I am only acting on behalf of CF'ers who agree with the letter. Get it?

And if you don't agree, please explain why and I'll consider amending it.
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Re: Suggested warning letter to HSBC et al

Postby runaway » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:15 pm

Malapapa wrote:For comment, wider dissemination and use...


Dear Sir or Madam

Cypriot rights

We note that your organisation has business interests in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

You may know that the entire island of Cyprus is legally the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, though it does not have effective control of the ‘TRNC’ area as a result of illegal invasion, occupation and settlement by Turkey.

Some 200,000 Cypriots were displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area by Turkey’s actions in violation of their human and property rights.

You may also know that recent rulings of the European Court of Justice and the UK Court of Appeal in the high profile Orams case have affirmed that judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable in the UK and other EU countries.

Perhaps inadvertently, your organisation, by operating in the ‘TRNC’, may be infringing property rights of displaced Cypriots, who own the vast majority of property there. This means you may be liable to the rightful Cypriot owners for trespass, back-rent, restitution and damages under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus. In line with the Orams case, any judgment against you in a Republic of Cyprus court is enforceable against your assets across the EU.

You may very well be fully aware of all this, and even now be considering what action you should take to protect the interests and reputation of your organisation.

Nevertheless, as members of the Cyprus Forum, we thought it important to ensure that relevant parties with an interest in Cyprus remain suitably educated about the island, its people and their rights.

Yours faithfully

south cypriot members of Cyprus Forum
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Re: Suggested warning letter to HSBC et al

Postby Malapapa » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:20 pm

runaway wrote:
Malapapa wrote:For comment, wider dissemination and use...


Dear Sir or Madam

Cypriot rights

We note that your organisation has business interests in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

You may know that the entire island of Cyprus is legally the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, though it does not have effective control of the ‘TRNC’ area as a result of illegal invasion, occupation and settlement by Turkey.

Some 200,000 Cypriots were displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area by Turkey’s actions in violation of their human and property rights.

You may also know that recent rulings of the European Court of Justice and the UK Court of Appeal in the high profile Orams case have affirmed that judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable in the UK and other EU countries.

Perhaps inadvertently, your organisation, by operating in the ‘TRNC’, may be infringing property rights of displaced Cypriots, who own the vast majority of property there. This means you may be liable to the rightful Cypriot owners for trespass, back-rent, restitution and damages under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus. In line with the Orams case, any judgment against you in a Republic of Cyprus court is enforceable against your assets across the EU.

You may very well be fully aware of all this, and even now be considering what action you should take to protect the interests and reputation of your organisation.

Nevertheless, as members of the Cyprus Forum, we thought it important to ensure that relevant parties with an interest in Cyprus remain suitably educated about the island, its people and their rights.

Yours faithfully

south cypriot members of Cyprus Forum


:lol: and especially refugees from the north...
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Postby T_C » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:20 pm

I say send it so we can see what their response will be. Then we can all discuss what subliminal messages we gathered out of it. :D
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Re: Suggested warning letter to HSBC et al

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:22 pm

Malapapa wrote:For comment, wider dissemination and use...


Dear Sir or Madam

Cypriot rights

We note that your organisation has business interests in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

You may know that the entire island of Cyprus is legally the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, though it does not have effective control of the ‘TRNC’ area as a result of illegal invasion, occupation and settlement by Turkey.

Some 200,000 Cypriots were displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area by Turkey’s actions in violation of their human and property rights.

You may also know that recent rulings of the European Court of Justice and the UK Court of Appeal in the high profile Orams case have affirmed that judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable in the UK and other EU countries.

Perhaps inadvertently, your organisation, by operating in the ‘TRNC’, may be infringing property rights of displaced Cypriots, who own the vast majority of property there. This means you may be liable to the rightful Cypriot owners for trespass, back-rent, restitution and damages under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus. In line with the Orams case, any judgment against you in a Republic of Cyprus court is enforceable against your assets across the EU.

You may very well be fully aware of all this, and even now be considering what action you should take to protect the interests and reputation of your organisation.

Nevertheless, as members of the Cyprus Forum, we thought it important to ensure that relevant parties with an interest in Cyprus remain suitably educated about the island, its people and their rights.

Yours faithfully

Cyprus Forum members

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Re: Suggested warning letter to HSBC et al

Postby Malapapa » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:25 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Malapapa wrote:For comment, wider dissemination and use...


Dear Sir or Madam

Cypriot rights

We note that your organisation has business interests in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

You may know that the entire island of Cyprus is legally the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, though it does not have effective control of the ‘TRNC’ area as a result of illegal invasion, occupation and settlement by Turkey.

Some 200,000 Cypriots were displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area by Turkey’s actions in violation of their human and property rights.

You may also know that recent rulings of the European Court of Justice and the UK Court of Appeal in the high profile Orams case have affirmed that judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable in the UK and other EU countries.

Perhaps inadvertently, your organisation, by operating in the ‘TRNC’, may be infringing property rights of displaced Cypriots, who own the vast majority of property there. This means you may be liable to the rightful Cypriot owners for trespass, back-rent, restitution and damages under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus. In line with the Orams case, any judgment against you in a Republic of Cyprus court is enforceable against your assets across the EU.

You may very well be fully aware of all this, and even now be considering what action you should take to protect the interests and reputation of your organisation.

Nevertheless, as members of the Cyprus Forum, we thought it important to ensure that relevant parties with an interest in Cyprus remain suitably educated about the island, its people and their rights.

Yours faithfully

Cyprus Forum members

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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:27 pm

I don't get it... is this just for HSBC or for group of companies? :?

If it’s the first, why do you need a list of emails? :?

As for your letter, some parts could be better worded and supported by credible evidence. I’ll post some comments tonight.
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:01 pm

Get Real! wrote:I don't get it... is this just for HSBC or for group of companies? :?


Those who operate in the north.... HSBC et al.... (and others)

Get Real! wrote:If it’s the first, why do you need a list of emails? :?

As for your letter, some parts could be better worded and supported by credible evidence. I’ll post some comments tonight.


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Postby DT. » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:03 pm

HSBC was told to close down its northern branch (its a branch of the Turkish acquisition that was made and considered to be on Turkish soil under Turkish regulation.

When HSBC was asked to close this branch down its reaction after weighing its business interests in Turkey and those in Cyprus was to close the Cyprus Private banking branch down instead. It later offloaded all its shares in Laiki Bank (20%) to Marfin.

Thats how much HSBC values doing business with Cyprus
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Postby YFred » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:07 pm

Well did we really expect anything else? So what does that say about the atitude of big business towards Cyprus?
It's a retorical question .
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