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[Viewpoint]

HSBC customers like Epsilon. Please feel free to send the following letter to the Financial Service Authority (FSA), or equivalent financial regulator, in your respective home countries. (Not you runaway)...

Dear Sir or Madam

HSBC and ‘TRNC’

I have been a customer of HSBC for many years (I can provide you with details of my accounts on request). As a law-abiding citizen, I expect financial institutions that I deal with to have full respect, wherever they operate, for legitimate laws and for the rights of human beings.

I was therefore surprised to learn that HSBC, which is under the consolidated supervision of the Financial Services Authority (the ‘FSA’), has a business presence in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

Presumably the FSA and HSBC are both aware that the ‘TRNC’ area has been illegally invaded, occupied and settled by Turkey. The vast majority of the property in that area belongs to Cypriots displaced by Turkey, in violation of their human and property rights.

Under international law the ‘TRNC’ area remains the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, a member state of the European Union. Moreover, as recently affirmed by the European Court of Justice and the English Court of Appeal in Apostolides v Orams [2010] EWCA Civ 9 (the ‘Orams case’), the judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable throughout the European Union.

Obviously, any high profile international organisation such as HSBC operating in the ‘TRNC’ is now particularly vulnerable to financially and reputationally damaging litigation if it has violated the laws of the Republic of Cyprus and the property or other rights of displaced Cypriots. Judgments obtained in a Republic of Cyprus court can be enforced against the organisation’s assets across the European Union.

I trust that the FSA, as part of its consolidated supervision, has taken steps to ensure that HSBC, in operating in the ‘TRNC’, (a) is in full compliance with the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus, as the legitimate and internationally recognised local authority; (b) has not infringed the property or other rights of Cypriots displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area; and (c) has not provided banking facilities to those who have benefited from such infringement (which presumably would be tantamount to money laundering).

I look forward to hearing from you before deciding what further action to take.

Yours faithfully

How did you sign this one off? Cyprus Forum Members? which email did you use? Cyprus Forum Members? sure Admin should do something about this abuse of forum name and misrepresentation of a large group who contribute to this forum.

[Malapapa]

well its a gmail email so i dont think there is a problem at all if it was a @cyprus-forum.com email then i would agree with you

So its ok for me to send letters of hate to GC firms in the south and sign off the members of Cyprus forum, please there is a smell of double standards here. isnt it illegal to use someone elses identity for your own use its called fraud.

But you said the Turkish army is on the island to "protect" the T/Cs and not to stop the Greek Cypriots from reclaiming their land. I seriously don't see then why you are so worked up about this case, posting on every thread endlessly, about how nothing has changed.

Anyone would think you were opposed to the idea that Greek Cypriots might get their property back. And we all know that's not true, don't we?

Whats that got to do with Viewpoint wanting to protect his identity or mine or "yours" for that matter?

What are you talking about - "protecting your identity"? Who the fcuk are you? Or Viewpoint?

You do not represent us on this forum so please refrain from using the wording Members of the Cyprus and stick to GC Members of the CF, now do you get it?

Well clearly I wouldn't be warning multi-national organisations of their involvement in illegalities in the north, on behalf of members of the CF who benefit directly or indirectly from such illegalities. That's implicit to anyone with 37% of a brain.

[Malapapa]

HSBC customers like Epsilon. Please feel free to send the following letter to the Financial Service Authority (FSA), or equivalent financial regulator, in your respective home countries. (Not you runaway)...

Dear Sir or Madam

HSBC and ‘TRNC’

I have been a customer of HSBC for many years (I can provide you with details of my accounts on request). As a law-abiding citizen, I expect financial institutions that I deal with to have full respect, wherever they operate, for legitimate laws and for the rights of human beings.

I was therefore surprised to learn that HSBC, which is under the consolidated supervision of the Financial Services Authority (the ‘FSA’), has a business presence in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

Presumably the FSA and HSBC are both aware that the ‘TRNC’ area has been illegally invaded, occupied and settled by Turkey. The vast majority of the property in that area belongs to Cypriots displaced by Turkey, in violation of their human and property rights.

Under international law the ‘TRNC’ area remains the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, a member state of the European Union. Moreover, as recently affirmed by the European Court of Justice and the English Court of Appeal in Apostolides v Orams [2010] EWCA Civ 9 (the ‘Orams case’), the judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable throughout the European Union.

Obviously, any high profile international organisation such as HSBC operating in the ‘TRNC’ is now particularly vulnerable to financially and reputationally damaging litigation if it has violated the laws of the Republic of Cyprus and the property or other rights of displaced Cypriots. Judgments obtained in a Republic of Cyprus court can be enforced against the organisation’s assets across the European Union.

I trust that the FSA, as part of its consolidated supervision, has taken steps to ensure that HSBC, in operating in the ‘TRNC’, (a) is in full compliance with the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus, as the legitimate and internationally recognised local authority; (b) has not infringed the property or other rights of Cypriots displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area; and (c) has not provided banking facilities to those who have benefited from such infringement (which presumably would be tantamount to money laundering).

I look forward to hearing from you before deciding what further action to take.

Yours faithfully

How did you sign this one off? Cyprus Forum Members? which email did you use? Cyprus Forum Members? sure Admin should do something about this abuse of forum name and misrepresentation of a large group who contribute to this forum.

No. I took advice and personal letters (implicit by the use of the personal pronoun 'I') to regulatory bodies are best sent by post rather than email.

[Gasman]

I've been thinking about this. I just cannot believe that the Hong Kong & Shanghai Banking Corporation, one of the biggest banks in the world, with operations in so many countries worldwide, did not take any advice about operating in the TRNC?

[paliometoxo]

because they have brains to stay away from the invaded north

[Malapapa]

I've been thinking about this. I just cannot believe that the Hong Kong & Shanghai Banking Corporation, one of the biggest banks in the world, with operations in so many countries worldwide, did not take any advice about operating in the TRNC?

This could end up costing them a small fortune...

[Malapapa]

because they have brains to stay away from the invaded north

The point is they do operate in the north, palio. That's why they're now sitting ducks.

[Kikapu]

HSBC customers like Epsilon. Please feel free to send the following letter to the Financial Service Authority (FSA), or equivalent financial regulator, in your respective home countries. (Not you runaway)...

Dear Sir or Madam

HSBC and ‘TRNC’

I have been a customer of HSBC for many years (I can provide you with details of my accounts on request). As a law-abiding citizen, I expect financial institutions that I deal with to have full respect, wherever they operate, for legitimate laws and for the rights of human beings.

I was therefore surprised to learn that HSBC, which is under the consolidated supervision of the Financial Services Authority (the ‘FSA’), has a business presence in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

Presumably the FSA and HSBC are both aware that the ‘TRNC’ area has been illegally invaded, occupied and settled by Turkey. The vast majority of the property in that area belongs to Cypriots displaced by Turkey, in violation of their human and property rights.

Under international law the ‘TRNC’ area remains the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, a member state of the European Union. Moreover, as recently affirmed by the European Court of Justice and the English Court of Appeal in Apostolides v Orams [2010] EWCA Civ 9 (the ‘Orams case’), the judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable throughout the European Union.

Obviously, any high profile international organisation such as HSBC operating in the ‘TRNC’ is now particularly vulnerable to financially and reputationally damaging litigation if it has violated the laws of the Republic of Cyprus and the property or other rights of displaced Cypriots. Judgments obtained in a Republic of Cyprus court can be enforced against the organisation’s assets across the European Union.

I trust that the FSA, as part of its consolidated supervision, has taken steps to ensure that HSBC, in operating in the ‘TRNC’, (a) is in full compliance with the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus, as the legitimate and internationally recognised local authority; (b) has not infringed the property or other rights of Cypriots displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area; and (c) has not provided banking facilities to those who have benefited from such infringement (which presumably would be tantamount to money laundering).

I look forward to hearing from you before deciding what further action to take.

Yours faithfully

How did you sign this one off? Cyprus Forum Members? which email did you use? Cyprus Forum Members? sure Admin should do something about this abuse of forum name.

He can just sign it from "Member of Cyprus Forum".!

Will that be more acceptable to you, because it would imply singular member, himself, but the context will still suggest Cyprus Forum members, therefore you cant win. But since there are more than one person who agrees with him sending letters as CF members, then him using the plural format as in "we" or "members", as in "Cyprus Forum members" would still be correct, therefore there’s nothing you or the Admin can do about it, so stop complaining over nothing.!

[Viewpoint]

well its a gmail email so i dont think there is a problem at all if it was a @cyprus-forum.com email then i would agree with you

So its ok for me to send letters of hate to GC firms in the south and sign off the members of Cyprus forum, please there is a smell of double standards here. isnt it illegal to use someone elses identity for your own use its called fraud.

But you said the Turkish army is on the island to "protect" the T/Cs and not to stop the Greek Cypriots from reclaiming their land. I seriously don't see then why you are so worked up about this case, posting on every thread endlessly, about how nothing has changed.

Anyone would think you were opposed to the idea that Greek Cypriots might get their property back. And we all know that's not true, don't we?

Whats that got to do with Viewpoint wanting to protect his identity or mine or "yours" for that matter?

What are you talking about - "protecting your identity"? Who the fcuk are you? Or Viewpoint?

You do not represent us on this forum so please refrain from using the wording Members of the Cyprus and stick to GC Members of the CF, now do you get it?

Well clearly I wouldn't be warning multi-national organisations of their involvement in illegalities in the north, on behalf of members of the CF who benefit directly or indirectly from such illegalities. That's implicit to anyone with 37% of a brain.

You are misrepresenting the whole forum admin should take note and stop you it is fraud.

[Viewpoint]

HSBC customers like Epsilon. Please feel free to send the following letter to the Financial Service Authority (FSA), or equivalent financial regulator, in your respective home countries. (Not you runaway)...

Dear Sir or Madam

HSBC and ‘TRNC’

I have been a customer of HSBC for many years (I can provide you with details of my accounts on request). As a law-abiding citizen, I expect financial institutions that I deal with to have full respect, wherever they operate, for legitimate laws and for the rights of human beings.

I was therefore surprised to learn that HSBC, which is under the consolidated supervision of the Financial Services Authority (the ‘FSA’), has a business presence in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

Presumably the FSA and HSBC are both aware that the ‘TRNC’ area has been illegally invaded, occupied and settled by Turkey. The vast majority of the property in that area belongs to Cypriots displaced by Turkey, in violation of their human and property rights.

Under international law the ‘TRNC’ area remains the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, a member state of the European Union. Moreover, as recently affirmed by the European Court of Justice and the English Court of Appeal in Apostolides v Orams [2010] EWCA Civ 9 (the ‘Orams case’), the judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable throughout the European Union.

Obviously, any high profile international organisation such as HSBC operating in the ‘TRNC’ is now particularly vulnerable to financially and reputationally damaging litigation if it has violated the laws of the Republic of Cyprus and the property or other rights of displaced Cypriots. Judgments obtained in a Republic of Cyprus court can be enforced against the organisation’s assets across the European Union.

I trust that the FSA, as part of its consolidated supervision, has taken steps to ensure that HSBC, in operating in the ‘TRNC’, (a) is in full compliance with the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus, as the legitimate and internationally recognised local authority; (b) has not infringed the property or other rights of Cypriots displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area; and (c) has not provided banking facilities to those who have benefited from such infringement (which presumably would be tantamount to money laundering).

I look forward to hearing from you before deciding what further action to take.

Yours faithfully

How did you sign this one off? Cyprus Forum Members? which email did you use? Cyprus Forum Members? sure Admin should do something about this abuse of forum name and misrepresentation of a large group who contribute to this forum.

No. I took advice and personal letters (implicit by the use of the personal pronoun 'I') to regulatory bodies are best sent by post rather than email.

You sign off Cyprus Forum Members in plural, this is misrespresentation of the whole forum therefore fraud.