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Postby SKI-preo » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:22 pm

Maybe Guido microwaved a frozen pizza for the Talat.

Below more leeches to sue:
http://www.sunnylaneschool.net/staff.html
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:48 pm

Cool, thanks Skip!
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Re: Suggested warning letter to HSBC et al

Postby EPSILON » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:21 pm

Malapapa wrote:For comment, wider dissemination and use...


Dear Sir or Madam

Cypriot rights

We note that your organisation has business interests in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

You may know that the entire island of Cyprus is legally the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, though it does not have effective control of the ‘TRNC’ area as a result of illegal invasion, occupation and settlement by Turkey.

Some 200,000 Cypriots were displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area by Turkey’s actions in violation of their human and property rights.

You may also know that recent rulings of the European Court of Justice and the UK Court of Appeal in the high profile Orams case have affirmed that judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable in the UK and other EU countries.

Perhaps inadvertently, your organisation, by operating in the ‘TRNC’, may be infringing property rights of displaced Cypriots, who own the vast majority of property there. This means you may be liable to the rightful Cypriot owners for trespass, back-rent, restitution and damages under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus. In line with the Orams case, any judgment against you in a Republic of Cyprus court is enforceable against your assets across the EU.

You may very well be fully aware of all this, and even now be considering what action you should take to protect the interests and reputation of your organisation.

Nevertheless, as members of the Cyprus Forum, we thought it important to ensure that relevant parties with an interest in Cyprus remain suitably educated about the island, its people and their rights.

Yours faithfully

Cyprus Forum members


TEXT ALREADY SENT TO HSBC GREECE AND HEADQUARTERS
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Postby EPSILON » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:22 pm

Gasman wrote:Wasn't the Government, but here's what I read:

"When HSBC bought out Turkish Demirbank in 2002 and they announced they were opening branches in N. Cyprus, a senior manager from the GC central bank went to London to pressure the British Financial Services Authority to stop HSBC's operations in the north, but this one protest the greeks did not win. And they are still protesting about it"


Case will be solved / clarified in 4 working days
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Re: Suggested warning letter to HSBC et al

Postby Malapapa » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:45 pm

EPSILON wrote:
Malapapa wrote:For comment, wider dissemination and use...


Dear Sir or Madam

Cypriot rights

We note that your organisation has business interests in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

You may know that the entire island of Cyprus is legally the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, though it does not have effective control of the ‘TRNC’ area as a result of illegal invasion, occupation and settlement by Turkey.

Some 200,000 Cypriots were displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area by Turkey’s actions in violation of their human and property rights.

You may also know that recent rulings of the European Court of Justice and the UK Court of Appeal in the high profile Orams case have affirmed that judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable in the UK and other EU countries.

Perhaps inadvertently, your organisation, by operating in the ‘TRNC’, may be infringing property rights of displaced Cypriots, who own the vast majority of property there. This means you may be liable to the rightful Cypriot owners for trespass, back-rent, restitution and damages under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus. In line with the Orams case, any judgment against you in a Republic of Cyprus court is enforceable against your assets across the EU.

You may very well be fully aware of all this, and even now be considering what action you should take to protect the interests and reputation of your organisation.

Nevertheless, as members of the Cyprus Forum, we thought it important to ensure that relevant parties with an interest in Cyprus remain suitably educated about the island, its people and their rights.

Yours faithfully

Cyprus Forum members


TEXT ALREADY SENT TO HSBC GREECE AND HEADQUARTERS


Well done, Epsilon. Please let us know how you get on.
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Re: Suggested warning letter to HSBC et al

Postby EPSILON » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:48 pm

Malapapa wrote:
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Malapapa wrote:For comment, wider dissemination and use...


Dear Sir or Madam

Cypriot rights

We note that your organisation has business interests in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

You may know that the entire island of Cyprus is legally the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, though it does not have effective control of the ‘TRNC’ area as a result of illegal invasion, occupation and settlement by Turkey.

Some 200,000 Cypriots were displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area by Turkey’s actions in violation of their human and property rights.

You may also know that recent rulings of the European Court of Justice and the UK Court of Appeal in the high profile Orams case have affirmed that judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable in the UK and other EU countries.

Perhaps inadvertently, your organisation, by operating in the ‘TRNC’, may be infringing property rights of displaced Cypriots, who own the vast majority of property there. This means you may be liable to the rightful Cypriot owners for trespass, back-rent, restitution and damages under the laws of the Republic of Cyprus. In line with the Orams case, any judgment against you in a Republic of Cyprus court is enforceable against your assets across the EU.

You may very well be fully aware of all this, and even now be considering what action you should take to protect the interests and reputation of your organisation.

Nevertheless, as members of the Cyprus Forum, we thought it important to ensure that relevant parties with an interest in Cyprus remain suitably educated about the island, its people and their rights.

Yours faithfully

Cyprus Forum members


TEXT ALREADY SENT TO HSBC GREECE AND HEADQUARTERS


Well done, Epsilon. Please let us know how you get on.


I am a client of this b/ht organisation-thanks for the intial info- i did not know. they created me some difficulties in Scotland and now i can paying them back strongly
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:34 pm

HSBC customers like Epsilon. Please feel free to send the following letter to the Financial Service Authority (FSA), or equivalent financial regulator, in your respective home countries. (Not you runaway)...

Dear Sir or Madam

HSBC and ‘TRNC’

I have been a customer of HSBC for many years (I can provide you with details of my accounts on request). As a law-abiding citizen, I expect financial institutions that I deal with to have full respect, wherever they operate, for legitimate laws and for the rights of human beings.

I was therefore surprised to learn that HSBC, which is under the consolidated supervision of the Financial Services Authority (the ‘FSA’), has a business presence in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

Presumably the FSA and HSBC are both aware that the ‘TRNC’ area has been illegally invaded, occupied and settled by Turkey. The vast majority of the property in that area belongs to Cypriots displaced by Turkey, in violation of their human and property rights.

Under international law the ‘TRNC’ area remains the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, a member state of the European Union. Moreover, as recently affirmed by the European Court of Justice and the English Court of Appeal in Apostolides v Orams [2010] EWCA Civ 9 (the ‘Orams case’), the judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable throughout the European Union.

Obviously, any high profile international organisation such as HSBC operating in the ‘TRNC’ is now particularly vulnerable to financially and reputationally damaging litigation if it has violated the laws of the Republic of Cyprus and the property or other rights of displaced Cypriots. Judgments obtained in a Republic of Cyprus court can be enforced against the organisation’s assets across the European Union.

I trust that the FSA, as part of its consolidated supervision, has taken steps to ensure that HSBC, in operating in the ‘TRNC’, (a) is in full compliance with the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus, as the legitimate and internationally recognised local authority; (b) has not infringed the property or other rights of Cypriots displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area; and (c) has not provided banking facilities to those who have benefited from such infringement (which presumably would be tantamount to money laundering).

I look forward to hearing from you before deciding what further action to take.

Yours faithfully
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:54 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:


Using the CF name to attack people is imo not correct and the the CF admin would do themselves great justice if they took action to stop this fraud unless of course they are one and the same?


Well, well, well, the chickens have come home to roost. Listen motherfucker, you and your shit load of cronies have been using this forum to make DEATH THREATS, and you are now moan about some using the forum for a letter FFS.

VP FO and the rest of you ass holes.


The face of Greek Cypriot fanatics at its best, beware TCs these people claim to be your compatriots do you want to expose your children to this mindset?
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:00 pm

Malapapa wrote:
yorgozlu wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:well its a gmail email so i dont think there is a problem at all if it was a @cyprus-forum.com email then i would agree with you


So its ok for me to send letters of hate to GC firms in the south and sign off the members of Cyprus forum, please there is a smell of double standards here. isnt it illegal to use someone elses identity for your own use its called fraud.


But you said the Turkish army is on the island to "protect" the T/Cs and not to stop the Greek Cypriots from reclaiming their land. I seriously don't see then why you are so worked up about this case, posting on every thread endlessly, about how nothing has changed.

Anyone would think you were opposed to the idea that Greek Cypriots might get their property back. And we all know that's not true, don't we?


Whats that got to do with Viewpoint wanting to protect his identity or mine or "yours" for that matter?


What are you talking about - "protecting your identity"? Who the fcuk are you? Or Viewpoint?


You do not represent us on this forum so please refrain from using the wording Members of the Cyprus and stick to GC Members of the CF, now do you get it?
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:07 pm

Malapapa wrote:HSBC customers like Epsilon. Please feel free to send the following letter to the Financial Service Authority (FSA), or equivalent financial regulator, in your respective home countries. (Not you runaway)...

Dear Sir or Madam

HSBC and ‘TRNC’

I have been a customer of HSBC for many years (I can provide you with details of my accounts on request). As a law-abiding citizen, I expect financial institutions that I deal with to have full respect, wherever they operate, for legitimate laws and for the rights of human beings.

I was therefore surprised to learn that HSBC, which is under the consolidated supervision of the Financial Services Authority (the ‘FSA’), has a business presence in the self-styled ‘TRNC’ in the northern part of Cyprus.

Presumably the FSA and HSBC are both aware that the ‘TRNC’ area has been illegally invaded, occupied and settled by Turkey. The vast majority of the property in that area belongs to Cypriots displaced by Turkey, in violation of their human and property rights.

Under international law the ‘TRNC’ area remains the territory of the Republic of Cyprus, a member state of the European Union. Moreover, as recently affirmed by the European Court of Justice and the English Court of Appeal in Apostolides v Orams [2010] EWCA Civ 9 (the ‘Orams case’), the judgments of the courts of the Republic of Cyprus over its entire territory, including the ‘TRNC’ area, are enforceable throughout the European Union.

Obviously, any high profile international organisation such as HSBC operating in the ‘TRNC’ is now particularly vulnerable to financially and reputationally damaging litigation if it has violated the laws of the Republic of Cyprus and the property or other rights of displaced Cypriots. Judgments obtained in a Republic of Cyprus court can be enforced against the organisation’s assets across the European Union.

I trust that the FSA, as part of its consolidated supervision, has taken steps to ensure that HSBC, in operating in the ‘TRNC’, (a) is in full compliance with the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus, as the legitimate and internationally recognised local authority; (b) has not infringed the property or other rights of Cypriots displaced from the ‘TRNC’ area; and (c) has not provided banking facilities to those who have benefited from such infringement (which presumably would be tantamount to money laundering).

I look forward to hearing from you before deciding what further action to take.

Yours faithfully


How did you sign this one off? Cyprus Forum Members? which email did you use? Cyprus Forum Members? sure Admin should do something about this abuse of forum name.
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