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Breaking News: Orams quit Cyprus house

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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:40 am

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Wait and watch how things unfold, this battle may have been lost but the war is far from over. The costs are being met by the TCs


Isn't that a dangerous precedent?

Viewpoint wrote:and the Orams will get a seafront home this time also compliments of the TRNC


Promises, promises. If you were the Orams, would you risk trespassing on other people's land again?


The twist to this whole saga will soon be revealed please be patient and you GCs aint gonna like it.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:43 am

Gasman wrote:They could just finish off one of the thousands of unfinished ugly concrete hulks over there for the Orams. Plenty to choose from. Some haven't had any further work done on them in years. They could throw in a row of empty glass fronted shops for them too. Hundreds of those there!

Anyone who has distant memories of the place and hasn't visited it in recent years probably wouldn't WANT to live there now. There are stretches going up the panhandle that look like huge inner city council estates with all the little matchbox houses crowded in.

And the ridiculous bits like the Lions Garden - so flashy and in such bad taste - glittering away there in the middle of what looks like wasteland!

Oh I know! They could put the Orams up on one of the splendid Camp Sites over there - gawd has anyone ever seen them? Reminiscent of the shanties and shacks being erected for the Haiti Quake victims.

I wonder why the TRNC hasn't offered to build new homes and give them to the ABAG group - they should have more sympathy for them. They got nothing for their money!


As you say plenty of villas to choose from.
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:50 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Wait and watch how things unfold, this battle may have been lost but the war is far from over. The costs are being met by the TCs


Isn't that a dangerous precedent?

Viewpoint wrote:and the Orams will get a seafront home this time also compliments of the TRNC


Promises, promises. If you were the Orams, would you risk trespassing on other people's land again?


The twist to this whole saga will soon be revealed please be patient and you GCs aint gonna like it.


A weapon is being used against you that you know nothing about. The law. Your threats are hollow. All you can come up with is bollocks... and threats of violence.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:55 am

So according to the "trnc" exemplary laws who is the owner of the abandoned villa now?

I guess they need to fabricate some new "Esdeger" laws covering the issue of properties abandoned by British crooks :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:56 am

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Wait and watch how things unfold, this battle may have been lost but the war is far from over. The costs are being met by the TCs


Isn't that a dangerous precedent?

Viewpoint wrote:and the Orams will get a seafront home this time also compliments of the TRNC


Promises, promises. If you were the Orams, would you risk trespassing on other people's land again?


The twist to this whole saga will soon be revealed please be patient and you GCs aint gonna like it.


A weapon is being used against you that you know nothing about. The law. Your threats are hollow. All you can come up with is bollocks... and threats of violence.

MP the weapon only works for eu citizens not against VP unless he has property in the UK. Now what exactly is the tact for the 99% of the property problem now that you worked out how to solve 1% which in itself may take 100 years?
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:01 am

YFred wrote:MP the weapon only works for eu citizens not against VP unless he has property in the UK. Now what exactly is the tact for the 99% of the property problem now that you worked out how to solve 1% which in itself may take 100 years?


Speak to your cousin the lawyer, YFred. He will explain the implications of this judgement.
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Postby YFred » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:08 am

Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:MP the weapon only works for eu citizens not against VP unless he has property in the UK. Now what exactly is the tact for the 99% of the property problem now that you worked out how to solve 1% which in itself may take 100 years?


Speak to your cousin the lawyer, YFred. He will explain the implications of this judgement.

Did you not read Copperlines words. I don't want to speak my cousin. He charges by the word friend and foe :wink:
This judgment will not have any bearing on the political solution.
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Postby Hermes » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:10 am

YFred wrote: the weapon only works for eu citizens not against VP unless he has property in the UK. Now what exactly is the tact for the 99% of the property problem now that you worked out how to solve 1% which in itself may take 100 years?


Fred, don't you see this is about more than one couple and one house? It means you can't build on our land, sell our land, trespass on our land anywhere in the north without the risk of prosecution. This applies not just to EU citizens but individuals, officials, organisations and companies with assets in the EU. It can even apply to Turkish state assets in Europe.

Are you aware of how much property in the north is registered as Greek-Cypriot owned? Do you know how much land the Orthodox Church owns for example? You know the totals. It's not one per cent. It's nearer eighty percent. We have the deeds to prove it and the courts to settle it.

No one says the situation is going to turn overnight. But we're in a different place now. I don't think it's going to take a hundred years for the implications of this decision to sink in. You haven't got that long...
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:16 am

Viewpoint wrote:Wait and watch how things unfold, this battle may have been lost but the war is far from over. The costs are being met by the TCs and the Orams will get a seafront home this time also compliments of the TRNC who will ake control of the old villa, it will be interesting to see if Apostiilides tries to claim or use the house.

:roll: Oh look... Nostradamus is back with his accurate predictions like all the other ones he blew us away with including “direct flights”, “direct trade”, “recognition”, “annexation”, “Orams win”, etc! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:18 am

Hermes wrote:
YFred wrote: the weapon only works for eu citizens not against VP unless he has property in the UK. Now what exactly is the tact for the 99% of the property problem now that you worked out how to solve 1% which in itself may take 100 years?


Fred, don't you see this is about more than one couple and one house? It means you can't build on our land, sell our land, trespass on our land anywhere in the north without the risk of prosecution. This applies not just to EU citizens but individuals, officials, organisations and companies with assets in the EU. It can even apply to Turkish state assets in Europe.

Are you aware of how much property in the north is registered as Greek-Cypriot owned? Do you know how much land the Orthodox Church owns for example? It's not one per cent. It's nearer eighty percent. We have the deeds to prove it and the courts to decide it.

No one says the situation is going to turn overnight. But we're in a different place now. I don't think it's going to take a hundred years for the implications of this decision to sink in. You haven't got that long...

Yes Hermes, I do realise that, but do you realise that the people who have eu assets and GC land may be less than 5%, what are you going to do about 95%. Are you not taking your eye off the ball as it were.
As to the effect, all you are doing is destroying the TRNC economy which means the TCs will become even more dependant on Turkey. And that of course is exactly the result you want is not. Christ think about the overall problem and slightly further than your nose. There is a whole world out there.
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