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[Get Real!]

Only the return of 100% of the occupied territory can satisfy our 10,000 year old ancient ancestors you Ottoman fools!

[Malapapa]

MP, nobody is stopping anybody doing nothing. In the agreement you will have approximately 100000 properties returned to roc, another 40000 will be able to move up north if they so choose and about 40000 will get compensation. If those who get compensation are not happy, they are welcome to take the new roc or even Turkey to court.

No. No. No. It's too risky. The leaders cannot agree this as it may end up precluding some citizens from exercising their human right to their property. It would need to be tested at the ECHR, after the event, and it may fail. There is no precedent. No Cypriot can vote 'Yes' to such a solution without putting the rights of other compatriots at risk.

It really is not rocket science. In the mean time instead of 20 or 30 people having some peace in the last 10 years of court actions, at least 140000 will to start with at a stroke. You are actually against such move and condemning everybody to a life of misery. You miserable old sod.

Not one Cypriot should be denied the opportunity of exercising their human rights. Only a solution which recognises this could be acceptable.

[Viewpoint]

These guys are punch drunk from their Orams victory give them a few months of nothing and only then will they come back to earth and see the reality of no change.

[YFred]

MP, nobody is stopping anybody doing nothing. In the agreement you will have approximately 100000 properties returned to roc, another 40000 will be able to move up north if they so choose and about 40000 will get compensation. If those who get compensation are not happy, they are welcome to take the new roc or even Turkey to court.

No. No. No. It's too risky. The leaders cannot agree this as it may end up precluding some citizens from exercising their human right to their property. It would need to be tested at the ECHR, after the event, and it may fail. There is no precedent. No Cypriot can vote 'Yes' to such a solution without putting the rights of other compatriots at risk.

It really is not rocket science. In the mean time instead of 20 or 30 people having some peace in the last 10 years of court actions, at least 140000 will to start with at a stroke. You are actually against such move and condemning everybody to a life of misery. You miserable old sod.

Not one Cypriot should be denied the opportunity of exercising their human rights. Only a solution which recognises this could be acceptable.

MP you've caught the bug of all or nothing, and it will be nothing.

Let me pose to you another thought. What if 40000 TC refuse to go back and want to sell their property down south and all the greek Cypriots want to return to their property. Who has the priority? TC insecurity or GCs property rights? will you force the TCs to go back to their properties?

[Malapapa]

MP you've caught the bug of all or nothing, and it will be nothing.

Yes I got it from Apostolides. All to the refugee. Nothing to the trespassers.

Let me pose to you another thought. What if 40000 TC refuse to go back and want to sell their property down south and all the greek Cypriots want to return to their property. Who has the priority?

Both. Refugees have a right to their properties, other Cypriots are free to live wherever they wish and can afford.

TC insecurity or GCs property rights? will you force the TCs to go back to their properties?

Of course not. They can sell them and buy a new property wherever they wish.

[YFred]

MP you've caught the bug of all or nothing, and it will be nothing.

Yes I got it from Apostolides. All to the refugee. Nothing to the trespassers.

Let me pose to you another thought. What if 40000 TC refuse to go back and want to sell their property down south and all the greek Cypriots want to return to their property. Who has the priority?

Both. Refugees have a right to their properties, other Cypriots are free to live wherever they wish and can afford.

TC insecurity or GCs property rights? will you force the TCs to go back to their properties?

Of course not. They can sell them and buy a new property wherever they wish.

You missed the point, if they wish to buy in the north and no GC will sell, how?

[Malapapa]

These guys are punch drunk from their Orams victory give them a few months of nothing

There will now be a few months of nothing else.

and only then will they come back to earth and see the reality of no change.

In the words of a hero of mine Gerald Celente, "current events form future trends". The Orams event was major. Future trends stemming from this event are clear for all to see.

[Malapapa]

MP you've caught the bug of all or nothing, and it will be nothing.

Yes I got it from Apostolides. All to the refugee. Nothing to the trespassers.

Let me pose to you another thought. What if 40000 TC refuse to go back and want to sell their property down south and all the greek Cypriots want to return to their property. Who has the priority?

Both. Refugees have a right to their properties, other Cypriots are free to live wherever they wish and can afford.

TC insecurity or GCs property rights? will you force the TCs to go back to their properties?

Of course not. They can sell them and buy a new property wherever they wish.

You missed the point, if they wish to buy in the north and no GC will sell, how?

More properties will have to be built to accommodate them. It's called the construction and property market.

[YFred]

MP you've caught the bug of all or nothing, and it will be nothing.

Yes I got it from Apostolides. All to the refugee. Nothing to the trespassers.

Let me pose to you another thought. What if 40000 TC refuse to go back and want to sell their property down south and all the greek Cypriots want to return to their property. Who has the priority?

Both. Refugees have a right to their properties, other Cypriots are free to live wherever they wish and can afford.

TC insecurity or GCs property rights? will you force the TCs to go back to their properties?

Of course not. They can sell them and buy a new property wherever they wish.

You missed the point, if they wish to buy in the north and no GC will sell, how?

More properties will have to be built to accommodate them. It's called the construction and property market.

MP. Property is not just a house. Property has 1 house and lots of donums of land. It aint as simple as that. As the TCs are the ones who feel insecure and threatened there has to be allowances for them to have priority over whether they wish to return or not. Otherwise the deal is dead.

[Malapapa]

MP. Property is not just a house. Property has 1 house and lots of donums of land. It aint as simple as that. As the TCs are the ones who feel insecure and threatened there has to be allowances for them to have priority over whether they wish to return or not.

They can return to their homes in the south, if they wish, or sell up and buy whatever is available (and can afford) in the north, if they wish. No priority can be given to anyone.

Otherwise the deal is dead.

What deal?