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Malapapa

How else do we take on gangsters? When have any these "innocents" (who nevertheless directly or indirectly benefit from the activities of gangsters) ever stood up to these gangsters? No, innocents like you threaten the free world with these gangsters. "Don't apply the rule of law here," you say. "Our fanatics won't like it and will murder your lawyers."

You still have problems grasping the overall position, if there is the option to not throw a hand grenade into a crowd and still get the "gangster" then why not wait for that option? you prefer to take the other root and throw the bomb into a pool of innocent people just to capture and make pay one so called "gangster" this is called short sightedness and slefish acts which only benefit ones own.

Give it a rest. You were targeting a law-abiding lawyer (who also, as it happens, represents TCs) for retribution by fanatics, simply because he has ensured the rule of law must apply in the north, and I should apologise to you?

I was not personally targeting this lawyer or saying anyone should go after him I was just pointing out that when fanatics strike they target people who have been at the center of the action and in the Orams case and it appears he will be in the center of the Dome hotel case it this GC lawyer. You have been unable to support your accusation with conrete posts of mine as you know that was not my intention and cannot find it in you to accept you were wrong, you are such a disappointment and a fraud.

You apologise for making someone a target, you sneek.

Again prove it you liar.

[Malapapa]

You still have problems grasping the overall position, if there is the option to not throw a hand grenade into a crowd and still get the "gangster" then why not wait for that option?

Don't talk rot. What options? Talat's proposals? It's been 36 years; the refugees are dying without seeing justice.

you prefer to take the other root and throw the bomb into a pool of innocent people just to capture and make pay one so called "gangster" this is called short sightedness and slefish acts which only benefit ones own.

That's where you're wrong. The ruling benefits ALL displaced Cypriots. Only fanatics can't see this.

I was not personally targeting this lawyer or saying anyone should go after him I was just pointing out that when fanatics strike they target people who have been at the center of the action and in the Orams case and it appears he will be in the center of the Dome hotel case it this GC lawyer. You have been unable to support your accusation with conrete posts of mine as you know that was not my intention and cannot find it in you to accept you were wrong, you are such a disappointment and a fraud.

You're not a judge here but the defendant. Let's get Lord Justice Pill, Lord Justice Lloyd and Sir Paul Kennedy to decide again. But don't be surprised when they find against you.

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Malapapa

Don't talk rot. What options? Talat's proposals? It's been 36 years; the refugees are dying without seeing justice.

The current negotiations.

That's where you're wrong. The ruling benefits ALL displaced Cypriots. Only fanatics can't see this.

What about the TCs they still have to uproot their lives and move south, go through GC courts to get whats theirs, talk about double standards.

You're not a judge here but the defendant. Let's get Lord Justice Pill, Lord Justice Lloyd and Sir Paul Kennedy to decide again. But don't be surprised when they find against you.

Prove your false accusations or apologise like a man.

[Malapapa]

Malapapa

Don't talk rot. What options? Talat's proposals? It's been 36 years; the refugees are dying without seeing justice.

The current negotiations.

What about the TCs they still have to uproot their lives and move south, go through GC courts to get whats theirs, talk about double standards.

Sue, then. That's what individuals have to do to get justice in Cyprus.

Prove your false accusations or apologise like a man.

You don't deserve any form of apology whatsoever. Sue me.

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Malapapa

Don't talk rot. What options? Talat's proposals? It's been 36 years; the refugees are dying without seeing justice.

The current negotiations.

What about the TCs they still have to uproot their lives and move south, go through GC courts to get whats theirs, talk about double standards.

Sue, then. That's what individuals have to do to get justice in Cyprus.

Prove your false accusations or apologise like a man.

You don't deserve any form of apology whatsoever. Sue me.

True to form all talk no action, your denial is enough to prove you are a liar.

[Get Real!]

Well said Kitchen Blender, but am still unhappy with the 6 month residency rule. It's outlived its time, and it discriminates against a small group of the EU Citizenry.

It wouldn't hold water if challenged outside the Republic.

If anything it should be extended to 5 years before a TC can sell property in the unoccupied area otherwise many will take advantage of the situation and sell off just to live happily ever after in the occupied territory while their GC counterparts can’t enjoy the same rights.

Get Real makes what is simply a racist proposal. He is saying that a citizen who has committed no crime should be prevented from lawfully selling his/her property unless s/he has lived in a particular area for 5 years. One might have a residency qualification for real estate sales (there are arguments for and against this) but Get Real's only grounds for the application of this rule is that of ethnicity. In other words this rule of Get Real only applies to TCs. So much for the much vaunted claims of equality and human rights !

The current extraordinary political situation in Cyprus was built on racism by Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots as a result of ethnic cleansing so you'd better go preach to them not me...

[Paphitis]

You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

Did you say superficial !!!!
Paphitis , since the invasion of 1974 the most historically important day in the entire history of Cyprus has been the entry into the EU , the second most important date that will go down in history is the confirmation by the EC and the Royal Courts of Justice that only the RoC is considered the legal sovereign power in Cyprus.
The political battle that was won on Tuesday the 19th will have repercussions far more poignant that has so far been imagined .
I maintain that the large majority of T/Cs do not support the sale of G/C properties and those T/Cs with properties in the RoC can now take comfort that their legal status as the owners of such properties is guaranteed by the EC and all other Judiciary the world over.
Our T/C compatriots will rejoice knowing that justice has been carried out , their properties are safeguarded as indeed they should be.

Yes Milti. It's all superficial in terms of a solution to the Cyprus Problem.

May I also remind you that I too have an ECHR case filed, but am under no illusion as to the futility of this "political war".

Paphitis , don't make a fool of your self mate , None on this forum would agree with you that Tuesdays outcome is merely superficial and futile !
Tell this to Mr Apostolides who fought for almost 5 years , tell him he has wasted his time , tell him that the results are meaningless .
I told you before that although I can see a lot of goodness in you I can also see a lot of immaturity . The outcome has been an historical event that will be celebrated with the same fervour as March the 25th.

When all is being lost, it's so easy to latch onto inconsequential legal wins which will not solve the Cyprus Issue by removing all troops from Cyprus.

All legal cases are rather irrelevant to the liberation of Cyprus.

They achieve nothing other than give some justice to some refugees only when Turkey abides by the court's verdict which it does not have to do.

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You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

Did you say superficial !!!!
Paphitis , since the invasion of 1974 the most historically important day in the entire history of Cyprus has been the entry into the EU , the second most important date that will go down in history is the confirmation by the EC and the Royal Courts of Justice that only the RoC is considered the legal sovereign power in Cyprus.
The political battle that was won on Tuesday the 19th will have repercussions far more poignant that has so far been imagined .
I maintain that the large majority of T/Cs do not support the sale of G/C properties and those T/Cs with properties in the RoC can now take comfort that their legal status as the owners of such properties is guaranteed by the EC and all other Judiciary the world over.
Our T/C compatriots will rejoice knowing that justice has been carried out , their properties are safeguarded as indeed they should be.

Yes Milti. It's all superficial in terms of a solution to the Cyprus Problem.

May I also remind you that I too have an ECHR case filed, but am under no illusion as to the futility of this "political war".

Paphitis , don't make a fool of your self mate , None on this forum would agree with you that Tuesdays outcome is merely superficial and futile !
Tell this to Mr Apostolides who fought for almost 5 years , tell him he has wasted his time , tell him that the results are meaningless .
I told you before that although I can see a lot of goodness in you I can also see a lot of immaturity . The outcome has been an historical event that will be celebrated with the same fervour as March the 25th.

When all is being lost, it's so easy to latch onto inconsequential legal wins which will not solve the Cyprus Issue by removing all troops from Cyprus.

All legal cases are rather irrelevant to the liberation of Cyprus.

They achieve nothing other than give some justice to some refugees only when Turkey abides by the court's verdict which it does not have to do.

Well done I agree 100%.

[Me Ed]

Ha ha ha!

The TCs on this forum have been stating as long as I have been on CF that the world is getting bored with the GC stance and they will eventually give the TC their dream.

Indeed, Milti is correct, and the world has ruled against you and put your partitionist aims to death.