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[YFred]

You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

How can you say that? How can they stay if TCs say go. It's simple, you just have to get the TCs to trust you. Pigs will fly.

Go on then. Tell them to go. Will the 300,000 thousand settlers also tell them to go.

Do you think they even care what any of you think.

The TCs are not even part of the equation. You don't even exist.

You see only black and white. How do they select 95% TC mps then? If they are so powerless.
We is not as powerless you pretend.

[Paphitis]

You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

How can you say that? How can they stay if TCs say go. It's simple, you just have to get the TCs to trust you. Pigs will fly.

Go on then. Tell them to go. Will the 300,000 thousand settlers also tell them to go.

Do you think they even care what any of you think.

The TCs are not even part of the equation. You don't even exist.

You see only black and white. How do they select 95% TC mps then? If they are so powerless.
We is not as powerless you pretend.

All Turks are powerless against the strategic interests and objectives of the Turkish Army.

They won't leave even if every Turk and TC told them to.

[miltiades]

You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

Did you say superficial !!!!
Paphitis , since the invasion of 1974 the most historically important day in the entire history of Cyprus has been the entry into the EU , the second most important date that will go down in history is the confirmation by the EC and the Royal Courts of Justice that only the RoC is considered the legal sovereign power in Cyprus.
The political battle that was won on Tuesday the 19th will have repercussions far more poignant that has so far been imagined .
I maintain that the large majority of T/Cs do not support the sale of G/C properties and those T/Cs with properties in the RoC can now take comfort that their legal status as the owners of such properties is guaranteed by the EC and all other Judiciary the world over.
Our T/C compatriots will rejoice knowing that justice has been carried out , their properties are safeguarded as indeed they should be.

[YFred]

You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

How can you say that? How can they stay if TCs say go. It's simple, you just have to get the TCs to trust you. Pigs will fly.

Go on then. Tell them to go. Will the 300,000 thousand settlers also tell them to go.

Do you think they even care what any of you think.

The TCs are not even part of the equation. You don't even exist.

You see only black and white. How do they select 95% TC mps then? If they are so powerless.
We is not as powerless you pretend.

All Turks are powerless against the strategic interests and objectives of the Turkish Army.

They won't leave even if every Turk and TC told them to.

But you have not answered the question. What you said does not explain that in TRNC there is almost exclusive TC parliament representation. Has it occurred to you that the so called settlers are more TC then TCs? and love Turkey just as much?
Is that possible?
You bet your bottom dollar, cobber.
How is the outback these days and the old crop spraying business?

[Paphitis]

You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

Did you say superficial !!!!
Paphitis , since the invasion of 1974 the most historically important day in the entire history of Cyprus has been the entry into the EU , the second most important date that will go down in history is the confirmation by the EC and the Royal Courts of Justice that only the RoC is considered the legal sovereign power in Cyprus.
The political battle that was won on Tuesday the 19th will have repercussions far more poignant that has so far been imagined .
I maintain that the large majority of T/Cs do not support the sale of G/C properties and those T/Cs with properties in the RoC can now take comfort that their legal status as the owners of such properties is guaranteed by the EC and all other Judiciary the world over.
Our T/C compatriots will rejoice knowing that justice has been carried out , their properties are safeguarded as indeed they should be.

Yes Milti. It's all superficial in terms of a solution to the Cyprus Problem.

May I also remind you that I too have an ECHR case filed, but am under no illusion as to the futility of this "political war".

[Paphitis]

You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

How can you say that? How can they stay if TCs say go. It's simple, you just have to get the TCs to trust you. Pigs will fly.

Go on then. Tell them to go. Will the 300,000 thousand settlers also tell them to go.

Do you think they even care what any of you think.

The TCs are not even part of the equation. You don't even exist.

You see only black and white. How do they select 95% TC mps then? If they are so powerless.
We is not as powerless you pretend.

All Turks are powerless against the strategic interests and objectives of the Turkish Army.

They won't leave even if every Turk and TC told them to.

But you have not answered the question. What you said does not explain that in TRNC there is almost exclusive TC parliament representation. Has it occurred to you that the so called settlers are more TC then TCs? and love Turkey just as much?
Is that possible?
You bet your bottom dollar, cobber.
How is the outback these days and the old crop spraying business?

The Turkish Parliament does not even have any power over the Turkish Army if it interferes with it's strategic interest. So where does this leave the TC "parliament"? Up shit creek....

[YFred]

You keep mentioning this political battle, which we are losing despite some superficial ECHR hearings.

If we are so good at this political war, and since you are under the impression we are winning this political war, then please tell me when the TA will withdraw. Perhaps never?

Sorry Milti, but this political war is only played out on Turkey's terms and we will lose. Politicians are taking you all for a ride.

How can you say that? How can they stay if TCs say go. It's simple, you just have to get the TCs to trust you. Pigs will fly.

Go on then. Tell them to go. Will the 300,000 thousand settlers also tell them to go.

Do you think they even care what any of you think.

The TCs are not even part of the equation. You don't even exist.

You see only black and white. How do they select 95% TC mps then? If they are so powerless.
We is not as powerless you pretend.

All Turks are powerless against the strategic interests and objectives of the Turkish Army.

They won't leave even if every Turk and TC told them to.

But you have not answered the question. What you said does not explain that in TRNC there is almost exclusive TC parliament representation. Has it occurred to you that the so called settlers are more TC then TCs? and love Turkey just as much?
Is that possible?
You bet your bottom dollar, cobber.
How is the outback these days and the old crop spraying business?

The Turkish Parliament does not even have any power over the Turkish Army if it interferes with it's strategic interest. So where does this leave the TC "parliament"? Up shit creek....

Why do you bring the Trkish Parliament into the equation.
The reason why Turkey is still in Cyprus is because there has been no serious effort made for peace. When you sign the peace agreement, then the TCs will officially ask the Turks to leave. Now if they don't then we'll take it from there. But, and that does not mean your arse, we have to get there first and only if we get there this situation can arise?
Capish?

[CopperLine]

Well said Kitchen Blender, but am still unhappy with the 6 month residency rule. It's outlived its time, and it discriminates against a small group of the EU Citizenry.

It wouldn't hold water if challenged outside the Republic.

If anything it should be extended to 5 years before a TC can sell property in the unoccupied area otherwise many will take advantage of the situation and sell off just to live happily ever after in the occupied territory while their GC counterparts can’t enjoy the same rights.

Get Real makes what is simply a racist proposal. He is saying that a citizen who has committed no crime should be prevented from lawfully selling his/her property unless s/he has lived in a particular area for 5 years. One might have a residency qualification for real estate sales (there are arguments for and against this) but Get Real's only grounds for the application of this rule is that of ethnicity. In other words this rule of Get Real only applies to TCs. So much for the much vaunted claims of equality and human rights !

[Kifeas]

Well said Kitchen Blender, but am still unhappy with the 6 month residency rule. It's outlived its time, and it discriminates against a small group of the EU Citizenry.

It wouldn't hold water if challenged outside the Republic.

If anything it should be extended to 5 years before a TC can sell property in the unoccupied area otherwise many will take advantage of the situation and sell off just to live happily ever after in the occupied territory while their GC counterparts can’t enjoy the same rights.

Get Real makes what is simply a racist proposal. He is saying that a citizen who has committed no crime should be prevented from lawfully selling his/her property unless s/he has lived in a particular area for 5 years. One might have a residency qualification for real estate sales (there are arguments for and against this) but Get Real's only grounds for the application of this rule is that of ethnicity. In other words this rule of Get Real only applies to TCs. So much for the much vaunted claims of equality and human rights !

Copper, in view of the fact that the GC properties in the occupied north are approximately 3.5 times more in size, than the the corresponding TC properties in the south, and in terms of perspective (long-term potential) real estate value they are estimated to be around 6-8 times more, mainly due to the large proportion of coastlines under occupation; and also, in view of the fact that there is a likelihood that TCs may reside in the north and continue exploiting usurped GC properties, while at the same time cross south, take possession of their own properties and sell them for big money; how do you as a big lawyer suggest we GCs better deal with this issue? (Issue of double bidding I mean.)

[Viewpoint]

We have already made moves in this direction...

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news- ... -case.html?

Good news, glad to read that GCs have realized the error of their ways and accepted that TCs are right therefore GCs have now accpeted to amend laws that discriminate against TCs claiming thier properties.

Don't you think the TC's lawyer should be killed?

Erm ... VP has already expressed his fears that he (the lawyer) may be shot in another thread.

Guess which Free Nicosia Lawyer has a majority of clients who are CYs from the Occupied Areas trying to get their homes back in the Free Areas?

Anyone for a little guess? What about you VP? Have a punt.

Havent a clue, is it the Loizidou lawyer by any chance?

The Loizidou lawyer, whose name I forget , was prominent in the Orams case but the Beloved Mr Candounas is the answer to my question.

The one Viewpoint wants killed?
How does it feel to be such a jerk, VP?

Where di I say that? prove it becuase you have just shown who is the jerk and liar.