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[Pyrpolizer]

Kifeas, I'm not trying to insinuate anything. I'm just noting a historical comparison already raised by Tim Drayton.

Had I wanted to comment on the 1975 Cyprus question I would have done so. I didn't so I didn't.

Copper, it has already been established in this thread that the title "population exchange agreement" was a forgery.
Then you talked about sub-treaty...
In my ears the wording you chose implied some sort of real sub-treaty.

[Pyrpolizer]

So seeing that 20.000 did remain and were not killed, it is a myth that GC were forced out they could have remained in their homes and not run off deserting them.

20,000 were the ones who stayed alive. The majority of raped women are from those villages.

So they wer enot killed only shows that GCs could have remained, the eoka probably scared you so that you would leave you homes and run south then you cry you were forced out.

Yep exactly the same of what happened to you in 1963. Some killings are enough. Kill 10, then you have 1000 running to save their lives.

[Viewpoint]

So seeing that 20.000 did remain and were not killed, it is a myth that GC were forced out they could have remained in their homes and not run off deserting them.

20,000 were the ones who stayed alive. The majority of raped women are from those villages.

So they wer enot killed only shows that GCs could have remained, the eoka probably scared you so that you would leave you homes and run south then you cry you were forced out.

Yep exactly the same of what happened to you in 1963. Some killings are enough. Kill 10, then you have 1000 running to save their lives.

I agree eoka killed a few and the rest went running but they could have stood their ground. Isnt this what you believe about 1963? when the TC ran?

[Oracle]

So seeing that 20.000 did remain and were not killed, it is a myth that GC were forced out they could have remained in their homes and not run off deserting them.

20,000 were the ones who stayed alive. The majority of raped women are from those villages.

So they wer enot killed only shows that GCs could have remained, the eoka probably scared you so that you would leave you homes and run south then you cry you were forced out.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=471326

[Pyrpolizer]

So seeing that 20.000 did remain and were not killed, it is a myth that GC were forced out they could have remained in their homes and not run off deserting them.

20,000 were the ones who stayed alive. The majority of raped women are from those villages.

So they wer enot killed only shows that GCs could have remained, the eoka probably scared you so that you would leave you homes and run south then you cry you were forced out.

Yep exactly the same of what happened to you in 1963. Some killings are enough. Kill 10, then you have 1000 running to save their lives.

I agree eoka killed a few and the rest went running but they could have stood their ground. Isnt this what you believe about 1963? when the TC ran?

Not me!

[CopperLine]

Kifeas, I'm not trying to insinuate anything. I'm just noting a historical comparison already raised by Tim Drayton.

Had I wanted to comment on the 1975 Cyprus question I would have done so. I didn't so I didn't.

Copper, it has already been established in this thread that the title "population exchange agreement" was a forgery.
Then you talked about sub-treaty...
In my ears the wording you chose implied some sort of real sub-treaty.

The main T.of Lausanne was signed in June or July 1923. For various reasons which I can't be bothered to go into now, an agreement just on population exchange was concluded in January as part of the Lausanne negotiations. Hence a sub-treaty. It had the same status as the final treaty. It was a real sub-treaty.

[Pyrpolizer]

Kifeas, I'm not trying to insinuate anything. I'm just noting a historical comparison already raised by Tim Drayton.

Had I wanted to comment on the 1975 Cyprus question I would have done so. I didn't so I didn't.

Copper, it has already been established in this thread that the title "population exchange agreement" was a forgery.
Then you talked about sub-treaty...
In my ears the wording you chose implied some sort of real sub-treaty.

The main T.of Lausanne was signed in June or July 1923. For various reasons which I can't be bothered to go into now, an agreement just on population exchange was concluded in January as part of the Lausanne negotiations. Hence a sub-treaty. It had the same status as the final treaty. It was a real sub-treaty.

Yes THAT was a REAL SUB-TREATY. The 3rd Vienna agreement was the sub-treaty of which treaty of "population exchange"???

[Pyrpolizer]

Oh don't bother to answer. After reading your post 4-5 times i realized you were trying to make a comparison. For a moment i thought you lost your objectiveness.
Please try to be a bit clearer in the future ok.

Apologies for the misunderstanding

[Tim Drayton]

The treaty of lausaune was a popultation exchange between greece and turkey however the property issue concerning greeks of turkey and turks of greece was solved with a seperate agreement in 1930 called THE Ankara protocol SIGHNED between Venizelos and Kemal ataturk that dealt with the properites of the refugees.

http://www.fhw.gr/chronos/14/en/1923_19 ... ns/06.html

Thanks for that. I have personally known quite a few people who come from families that were resettled under the Treaty of Lausanne population exchange. It is a topic that interests me and it is very hard to find information about it.

[Tim Drayton]

Oh don't bother to answer. After reading your post 4-5 times i realized you were trying to make a comparison. For a moment i thought you lost your objectiveness.
Please try to be a bit clearer in the future ok.

Apologies for the misunderstanding

CopperLine was actually addressing a comparison that I made earlier in the thread, and one that I think is relevant because the official Turkish Cypriot historiography created during the Denktash era has also tried to draw this parallel to the population exchange under the Treaty of Lausanne.