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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Gasman » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:00 pm

Your weakness is that you think that all TCs are the same


Your mistake is that you believe you know what I think.

And you are VERY wrong on that point. It is much easier to fathom the way someone 'thinks' when they cannot keep their temper under control and let their potty mouth run away with them and cannot keep a civil tongue.

Not a problem for me.

You have no idea what I 'think' about TCs, how many of them I know, live among, (or could be related to)

And if you actually read what I say - I doubt you will find me saying anything much at all about TCs. Whether they are TCs living in the RoC, the TRNC, North London, South Africa or wherever.

But then I don't say much at all on this forum. But I belong to ALL Cyp forums! North, South, East, West and all the property owner forums and message boards too. And, some years ago, I joined them for very good reason.

You might find a few words from me about lying crooked opportunist property developers, lying opportunist chancer Brit buyers of GC owned property, corrupt legal systems, and those who can only threaten violence instead of being able to debate sensibly.

I am interested to listen to TCs, Turk settlers and ex pat Brits in the North. I have spent roughly 6mos of every year since they opened the crossings over there (travelling back and fro - longest stay being about 3 nights) I had very good reason to do so. Still do have but now have most of the information I needed.

Some spout a lot of stuff without ever having been there to see for themselves what the situation is and how the 'ordinary people' feel about things.

I am quite amused by the reactions of some (mainly Brits) to all this recent Orams stuff - hoping Turkey will invade again! Are they nuts? I don't think so - more likely to be so unintelligent as to have thought the consequences of that for them through and speaking out of desperation.

There is a more 'human' aspect to all of this than a few ex pat Brits having bought cheapo properties they knew were risky.

I've heard over and over from some that they aren't too worried - they were already over retirement age when they bought years ago, they got a house and pool for circa 20K, they'd had their money's worth already and could not complain if they lost it all tomorrow, as decent holidays would have cost more over the years than their TRNC property did. Others have said they lost more when Sterling went down the crapper than they paid for their TRNC property. They are philosophical about it. They are not the sort of people who will be posting to message boards defending the TRNC or calling for Turkey to invade or for the crossings to be closed.

But they are also obviously not the sort of people who gave a flying fig about buying property or land that belonged to someone else and getting a bargain on the back of that person's misfortune. At least they aren't feigning innocence now or crying 'foul'.
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Postby YFred » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:01 pm

Gasman wrote:Your weakness is that you think that all TCs are the same

Is that a new revelation or are you having visions? Or should I say visitations from other planets, Uranus?
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Postby Gasman » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:20 pm

YFred .. GASMAN DID NOT SAY THAT!

Read up please. That was said ABOUT Gasman!
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Postby Gasman » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:21 pm

Actually - YOU said it! Have you completely lost the plot?
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Postby Gasman » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:22 pm

Gasman was RESPONDING to you having said that! Duh!
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:25 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:Maybe we should ask to double the UN contingent ....

You can ten fold them dearest, it will not help you.


Why wouldn't having ten times as many UN peacekeepers help - in the evident of violence from an increasingly desperate northern regime against innocent people seeking and securing justice in the relevant courts?

Why, YFred? Explain yourself because I've just about had enough of your nasty, hollow threats.
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Postby Gasman » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:26 pm

You said:
"Your weakness is that you think that all TCs are the same"



And in response I said your mistake was to believe you know what I think!

DO try to keep with the programme.
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Postby YFred » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:36 pm

Gasman wrote:You said:

"Your weakness is that you think that all TCs are the same"


And in response I said your mistake was to believe you know what I think!

DO try to keep with the programme.


If you read your posts carefully you will understand what I was talking about.

My point was that you and others seem to be saying on the one hand that this Judgement is water off a duck's back and will make no difference to anything at all and no one who has bought GC land/property in the North need worry because nothing is going to happen to them.

Then, in the next breath, setting out in nasty detail exactly the fate that will befall all and sundry if anything DOES happen to them!

Can't have it both ways. If I was being threatened with something I knew just could not happen to me - I would not need to be planning the details of my revenge when it does.


The first comment is about how it will change the course of the negotiations, which it will not and the second comment is how the grey wolves may interpret what has happened and the actions they may take. How is that inconsistent.
Regarding who said what and have I lost the plot. I responded to your post and you edited it afterwords.
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Postby YFred » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:43 pm

Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:Maybe we should ask to double the UN contingent ....

You can ten fold them dearest, it will not help you.


Why wouldn't having ten times as many UN peacekeepers help - in the evident of violence from an increasingly desperate northern regime against innocent people seeking and securing justice in the relevant courts?

Why, YFred? Explain yourself because I've just about had enough of your nasty, hollow threats.

I am not making any nasty hollow threats MP. Not at all. On this forum, I said many times about what my view of the orams case was about, and now that the good lawyer has admitted it openly you still do not see it. Well, the tourism industry is riddled with TMT guys and you are about to attack them. Know knowing what TMT is like you do not need a lot of education to work out that they will fight back with what ever weapons is at their disposal.
You see when you attacked the construction industry, you attacked the innocent TCs too, and when you turn your attention on the tourist industry you will do the same. Well guess what the TMT will have no problem recruiting now will they? Plenty of unemployed people and all that.
They are not threats MP, they are realities of what it is likely to happen. And of course the TCs will get the blame again as per usual.
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:53 pm

YFred wrote:I am not making any nasty hollow threats MP. Not at all. On this forum, I said many times about what my view of the orams case was about, and now that the good lawyer has admitted it openly you still do not see it. Well, the tourism industry is riddled with TMT guys and you are about to attack them. Know knowing what TMT is like you do not need a lot of education to work out that they will fight back with what ever weapons is at their disposal.
You see when you attacked the construction industry, you attacked the innocent TCs too, and when you turn your attention on the tourist industry you will do the same. Well guess what the TMT will have no problem recruiting now will they? Plenty of unemployed people and all that.
They are not threats MP, they are realities of what it is likely to happen. And of course the TCs will get the blame again as per usual.


YFred, if the TMT react in any way they will bring about their own demise far quicker. It is a risk that will have to be taken by justice seekers. A bluff worth calling. And innocent TCs better wise up quickly too, because if they back the wrong horse again, not even free Cypriots will be willing to save them.
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