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[RichardB]

FAO P.I.P

From UK Foreign Office Website

The ownership of many properties is disputed in northern Cyprus, with many thousands of claims to ownership of properties from people displaced during the events of 1974. Purchase of these properties could have serious financial and legal implications. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled in a number of cases that owners of property in northern Cyprus prior to 1974 continue to be regarded as the legal owners of that property. Purchasers could face legal proceedings in the courts of the Republic of Cyprus, as well as attempts to enforce judgements from these courts elsewhere in the EU, including the UK. Property owners and potential purchasers should also consider that a future settlement of the Cyprus problem could have serious consequences for property they purchase (including the possible restitution of the property to its original owners). In particular, prospective purchasers should consider the implications of any future settlement on land / property:




•in the north that was Greek Cypriot owned
•that was subsequently classified as exchange land / property by the Turkish Cypriot "authorities".

The leaders of both communities started settlement negotiations in September 2008. Property issues forma key part of these negotiations. Until those negotiations are concluded and a comprehensive settlement agreed, the issues and risks identified above will continue to apply.

The thieving Pigs like the Orams have had plenty of warning

You Said

DID YOU KNOW THE JUDGE IS FRIENDS WITH THE TURK TAKING HIS LAND BACK?

Get your facts right

[pretty-as-pink]

FAO P.I.P

From UK Foreign Office Website

The ownership of many properties is disputed in northern Cyprus, with many thousands of claims to ownership of properties from people displaced during the events of 1974. Purchase of these properties could have serious financial and legal implications. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled in a number of cases that owners of property in northern Cyprus prior to 1974 continue to be regarded as the legal owners of that property. Purchasers could face legal proceedings in the courts of the Republic of Cyprus, as well as attempts to enforce judgements from these courts elsewhere in the EU, including the UK. Property owners and potential purchasers should also consider that a future settlement of the Cyprus problem could have serious consequences for property they purchase (including the possible restitution of the property to its original owners). In particular, prospective purchasers should consider the implications of any future settlement on land / property:




•in the north that was Greek Cypriot owned
•that was subsequently classified as exchange land / property by the Turkish Cypriot "authorities".

The leaders of both communities started settlement negotiations in September 2008. Property issues forma key part of these negotiations. Until those negotiations are concluded and a comprehensive settlement agreed, the issues and risks identified above will continue to apply.

The thieving Pigs like the Orams have had plenty of warning

You Said

DID YOU KNOW THE JUDGE IS FRIENDS WITH THE TURK TAKING HIS LAND BACK?

Get your facts right

WERE THE ORAMS TOLD THE LAND THEY WERE PURCHASING WAS STOLEN?
I LIVED IN CYPRUS AND NO ONE EVER TOLD ME YOU CANT GO TO THE NORTH TO BUY LAND.
I WOULDNT WANT TO BUY LAND THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE OR INVOLVED THE 1974 DOINGS, BUT YOU CANT BLAIM PEOPLE FOR FALLING INTO A TRAP NOR CAN YOU CALL THEM PIGS

[pretty-as-pink]

if cyprus isnt careful its going to fall flat on its arse, north east south or west, it will happen, its too bloody corrupt for its own good.

[Jerry]

Mrs O has said in public that she knew there was a risk involved. Anyone who only takes advice from local estate agents, lawyers and developers when buying abroad is a fool. Good practice would be to ask your solicitor in the UK for advice and if he/she does not know he wil know a man that does.

[RichardB]

FAO P.I.P

From UK Foreign Office Website

The ownership of many properties is disputed in northern Cyprus, with many thousands of claims to ownership of properties from people displaced during the events of 1974. Purchase of these properties could have serious financial and legal implications. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled in a number of cases that owners of property in northern Cyprus prior to 1974 continue to be regarded as the legal owners of that property. Purchasers could face legal proceedings in the courts of the Republic of Cyprus, as well as attempts to enforce judgements from these courts elsewhere in the EU, including the UK. Property owners and potential purchasers should also consider that a future settlement of the Cyprus problem could have serious consequences for property they purchase (including the possible restitution of the property to its original owners). In particular, prospective purchasers should consider the implications of any future settlement on land / property:




•in the north that was Greek Cypriot owned
•that was subsequently classified as exchange land / property by the Turkish Cypriot "authorities".

The leaders of both communities started settlement negotiations in September 2008. Property issues forma key part of these negotiations. Until those negotiations are concluded and a comprehensive settlement agreed, the issues and risks identified above will continue to apply.

The thieving Pigs like the Orams have had plenty of warning

You Said

DID YOU KNOW THE JUDGE IS FRIENDS WITH THE TURK TAKING HIS LAND BACK?

Get your facts right

WERE THE ORAMS TOLD THE LAND THEY WERE PURCHASING WAS STOLEN?
I LIVED IN CYPRUS AND NO ONE EVER TOLD ME YOU CANT GO TO THE NORTH TO BUY LAND.
I WOULDNT WANT TO BUY LAND THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE OR INVOLVED THE 1974 DOINGS, BUT YOU CANT BLAIM PEOPLE FOR FALLING INTO A TRAP NOR CAN YOU CALL THEM PIGS

I'm sorry PIP please dont take offence but it is obvious that you have absolutely no idea re the political situation or the land issue situation in cyprus.

The warnings re purchasing in the occupied lands have been going on now for the last 30+ years ...and you heard nothing!!! You must have lived a very sheltered existence in Cyprus...Did you never listen to the news or read a daily paper ????

Of course I can blame them ...they didnt fall into a trap ...they jumped in willingly , Now they have been caught in it and have been found guilty.

But you are right I shouldn't call them pigs

I apologise to all the swine family for associating you with the Orams

[paliometoxo]

well we cant do anything about what they do in the north they have 40 thousand turkish soldiers with guns to our head. i read the news some time ago british where warned to stay away yet they ignore it because the land is a bit cheaper and they buy into the turkish lies.. i agree with you its the turks fault but no one is there it enforce the rules that the turks ignore. and when you come to cyprus at one stage or another you hear of the cyprus problem you must notice the big barriers in nicosia and them asking for a passport or id card to pass? if you see the way they talk on some forums like cy44 you would see they know and simply dont care because they think they are safe in the trnc.

i agree with you though pinky the turks should be made to pay they are the ones who sold it. but without the british there to buy it then they would have no sale or the foreigner german or whatever nationality they are.

Plus who buys a house in an invaded part on an island without fully checking first? not just with the turkish authorities who will without a doubt say its ok and does not belong to gcs

[pretty-as-pink]

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[paliometoxo]

But when the gc court told them to move they ignored it. there is no way they did not know after the gc court told them to. plus now the authorities in trnc if anyone tries to summon them they are told to call the police. so on top of it the trnc is doing everything they can to stop it even if its stolen land instead of warning people or help stop it they do it more. so people are forced to go to uk courts and other countries.

but if they did not know before they knew after and ignored it until it was taken to a uk court and forced to comply

[pretty-as-pink]

But when the gc court told them to move they ignored it. there is no way they did not know after the gc court told them to. plus now the authorities in trnc if anyone tries to summon them they are told to call the police. so on top of it the trnc is doing everything they can to stop it even if its stolen land instead of warning people or help stop it they do it more. so people are forced to go to uk courts and other countries.

but if they did not know before they knew after and ignored it until it was taken to a uk court and forced to comply

toxo i wasnt calling you a prick sweetie, sorry if you thought that

[pretty-as-pink]

FAO P.I.P

From UK Foreign Office Website

The ownership of many properties is disputed in northern Cyprus, with many thousands of claims to ownership of properties from people displaced during the events of 1974. Purchase of these properties could have serious financial and legal implications. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled in a number of cases that owners of property in northern Cyprus prior to 1974 continue to be regarded as the legal owners of that property. Purchasers could face legal proceedings in the courts of the Republic of Cyprus, as well as attempts to enforce judgements from these courts elsewhere in the EU, including the UK. Property owners and potential purchasers should also consider that a future settlement of the Cyprus problem could have serious consequences for property they purchase (including the possible restitution of the property to its original owners). In particular, prospective purchasers should consider the implications of any future settlement on land / property:




•in the north that was Greek Cypriot owned
•that was subsequently classified as exchange land / property by the Turkish Cypriot "authorities".

The leaders of both communities started settlement negotiations in September 2008. Property issues forma key part of these negotiations. Until those negotiations are concluded and a comprehensive settlement agreed, the issues and risks identified above will continue to apply.

The thieving Pigs like the Orams have had plenty of warning

You Said

DID YOU KNOW THE JUDGE IS FRIENDS WITH THE TURK TAKING HIS LAND BACK?

Get your facts right

WERE THE ORAMS TOLD THE LAND THEY WERE PURCHASING WAS STOLEN?
I LIVED IN CYPRUS AND NO ONE EVER TOLD ME YOU CANT GO TO THE NORTH TO BUY LAND.
I WOULDNT WANT TO BUY LAND THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE OR INVOLVED THE 1974 DOINGS, BUT YOU CANT BLAIM PEOPLE FOR FALLING INTO A TRAP NOR CAN YOU CALL THEM PIGS

I'm sorry PIP please dont take offence but it is obvious that you have absolutely no idea re the political situation or the land issue situation in cyprus.

The warnings re purchasing in the occupied lands have been going on now for the last 30+ years ...and you heard nothing!!! You must have lived a very sheltered existence in Cyprus...Did you never listen to the news or read a daily paper ????

Of course I can blame them ...they didnt fall into a trap ...they jumped in willingly , Now they have been caught in it and have been found guilty.

But you are right I shouldn't call them pigs

I apologise to all the swine family for associating you with the Orams

you are a patronising prick.
i was a mere seed in 1974 thank you, i read the papers and understand the the orams had an idea of the risks.
i asked you to prove it, only im too sure you do read the papers therefore you will have the prove right?
buying any property in cy these days is a risk as far as im concerned.
also back off being so defencive, i have not said what happened in 1974 was good, it was bloody cruel and wrong im just stating my own views regadring the orams case and learning a little on the way if thats alright with you.
and sorry for calling you a prick, a tad too harsh, dick is better :wink