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TCs or Settlers? Chose.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

So which one?

TCs
3
25%
Settlers
9
75%
 
Total votes : 12

Postby Oracle » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:46 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Oracle wrote:A tabula rasa is too much to ask for ...

So, if we had to have any Turks back, it doesn't matter whether they are TCs or fresher Turks, so long as they buckle down and become law-abiding, respect and recognise the government of the RoC.

Basically, it's their behaviour which matters to me.


Indeed. Well said. Respect the rule of law, respect Cyprus and embrace its European values and culture, and who gives a flying fruitcake? But if you were to do that, what need to add the misnomer "Turk" as a qualifier to your identity?


There's nothing wrong with retaining an ethnic identifier. But the days when it carried any political (extra) weight for them, are long gone.

Embracing the RoC-EU, law and order etc are not mutually exclusive to also having an ethnicity. Just as people still use their country of origin to identify themselves from other Europeans.


Their country of origin may be Turkey but do settler consider themselves to be ethnically Turkish? I thought many if not most were Kurds, Alevis, Laz, Pomaks, Roma, Zazas etc.


No problem. I was just generalising as the majority are likely to recognise themselves as "ethnically" Turkish. But Kurds, Alevis ... whatever ... so long as they are upright RoC-supporting citizens, politically, they can be, ethnically, anything their hearts' desire.
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Postby YFred » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:46 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:They’re both useless and a serious liability to the future of Cyprus.

Where’s your “Neither” option?

A civilized UN managed, Ottoman/Anatolian repatriation program is the most sensible solution.


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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:56 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Oracle wrote:A tabula rasa is too much to ask for ...

So, if we had to have any Turks back, it doesn't matter whether they are TCs or fresher Turks, so long as they buckle down and become law-abiding, respect and recognise the government of the RoC.

Basically, it's their behaviour which matters to me.


Indeed. Well said. Respect the rule of law, respect Cyprus and embrace its European values and culture, and who gives a flying fruitcake? But if you were to do that, what need to add the misnomer "Turk" as a qualifier to your identity?


There's nothing wrong with retaining an ethnic identifier. But the days when it carried any political (extra) weight for them, are long gone.

Embracing the RoC-EU, law and order etc are not mutually exclusive to also having an ethnicity. Just as people still use their country of origin to identify themselves from other Europeans.


Their country of origin may be Turkey but do settler consider themselves to be ethnically Turkish? I thought many if not most were Kurds, Alevis, Laz, Pomaks, Roma, Zazas etc.


That's right. The sure thing they will never accuse us we "massacred" them.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:57 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Oracle wrote:A tabula rasa is too much to ask for ...

So, if we had to have any Turks back, it doesn't matter whether they are TCs or fresher Turks, so long as they buckle down and become law-abiding, respect and recognise the government of the RoC.

Basically, it's their behaviour which matters to me.


Indeed. Well said. Respect the rule of law, respect Cyprus and embrace its European values and culture, and who gives a flying fruitcake? But if you were to do that, what need to add the misnomer "Turk" as a qualifier to your identity?


There's nothing wrong with retaining an ethnic identifier. But the days when it carried any political (extra) weight for them, are long gone.

Embracing the RoC-EU, law and order etc are not mutually exclusive to also having an ethnicity. Just as people still use their country of origin to identify themselves from other Europeans.


Their country of origin may be Turkey but do settler consider themselves to be ethnically Turkish? I thought many if not most were Kurds, Alevis, Laz, Pomaks, Roma, Zazas etc.


That's right. The sure thing they will never accuse us we "massacred" them.


OK ... I'll cast my vote for "Settlers" then (but no more than 70,000 as a direct exchange for those ex-TCs. :D )
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Postby only me » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:20 pm

It matters not which topic you read on this forum , it is so obvious that the Greek Cypriot is on a par with Israel as pure RACIST.
I would also include a great number of the British living in the so called Republic of Cyprus.
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Postby rigsby » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:53 pm

and what about the ex pats(carpetbaggers) living in the north
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:22 pm

only me wrote:It matters not which topic you read on this forum , it is so obvious that the Greek Cypriot is on a par with Israel as pure RACIST.
I would also include a great number of the British living in the so called Republic of Cyprus.


I think Brits who live in the "TRNC" on the other hand are incredibly tolerant, prepared as they all are to live in an unrecognisd Islamic statelet, with mosques sprouting up everywhere, Anatolian peasantry and armed soldiers at every turn. An unrecognisd Islamic statelet which brazenly defies the rulings of the western imperialist English High Court.

Moreover you are also prepared to make thousands upon thousands of pounds worth of donations to representatives of this unrecognised statelet in return for the opportunity to live, temporarily, in shoddily built houses there. And you're prepared to run the huge risk of being sued for rent and compensation for doing so by the land owner.

Does your tolerance know no bounds?
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Postby only me » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:56 pm

Malpapa says 'unrecognisd Islamic statelet, with mosques sprouting up everywhere, Anatolian peasantry and armed soldiers at every turn. An unrecognisd Islamic statelet which brazenly defies the rulings of the western imperialist English High Court. '
Sort of proves my RACIST point, thank you.
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Postby B25 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:00 pm

only me wrote:Malpapa says 'unrecognisd Islamic statelet, with mosques sprouting up everywhere, Anatolian peasantry and armed soldiers at every turn. An unrecognisd Islamic statelet which brazenly defies the rulings of the western imperialist English High Court. '
Sort of proves my RACIST point, thank you.


Rubbish, this proves nothing. This a statement of fact. Which bit do you disbute??
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:53 pm

only me wrote:Sort of proves my RACIST point, thank you.

What could possibly be more racist than the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Cypriots from their millenniums-old ancestral homes?

Now run along…
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